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Lexus ES and Hyundai Genesis Lemon Odds and Nada Odds for the Year Ending June 30, 2018
An asterisk (*) marks results based on small sample sizes.
| Year | Make/Model | Nada Odds per 100 Cars | Lemon Odds per 100 Cars | ||
| 60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.2015 |
Hyundai Genesis | [?] | see reported repairs | ||
| 60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan. |
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| 39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.2012 |
Hyundai Genesis | [?] | see reported repairs | ||
| 39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago. |
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What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Lexus ES
| Lexus ES Brand Reputation: Pros | ||
| Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
| 2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
The ES is luxurious, classy, yet not too overtly ostentatious. see full Lexus ES review |
| 2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Among the best of the best for reliability and elegance. see full Lexus ES review |
| 2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
I have owned several Toyota vehicles without any major repairs. see full Lexus ES review |
| 2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Lexus is a brand with a reputation for reliability and a high degree of service. see full Lexus ES review |
| Lexus ES Brand Reputation: Cons | ||
| Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
| 2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
I originally bought the Lexus for its reputation and resale value. With everything going on with the Camry and other Toyota models as far as recalls, I thought it better to sell it now before the resale value plummets and it has no value. see full Lexus ES review |
TrueDelta Reviews the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis
| Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons | ||
| Year | Comment | |
| 2009 | Objectively, the brand shouldn't matter. But many potential buyers won't even consider the Genesis because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai itself has been forced to accept this, and with the 2017s (available starting in June or July) will make Genesis a separate brand. With this change, the Genesis sedan will become the Genesis G80. The Genesis badge still won't have the prestige of an Audi's four rings, much less a BMW roundel or Mercedes-Benz star, but it should prove less of a deal-killer. There still won't be separate Genesis dealerships, so the showroom ambiance and level of service still won't be those of a full luxury brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review | |
What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis
| Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Pros | ||
| Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
| 2012 | 4dr Sedan 333-horsepower 3.8L V6 8-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Our Austin area Hyundai dealership is not going convince anyone that they deal in luxury vehicles. While the dealership displays are comfortable and convenient, they are about a decade behind true luxury settings. And the service areas? Egads. Imagine a cross between urban Sears auto service and Walmart. Their service reps are a mixed bag: some quite professional and helpful, other not so much. I strongly suggest they take their service reps and go visit a Lexus dealer or at least an Acura dealer for a field trip. While they're at it, they should just steal some blueprints for design ideas. Hyundai vehicles are better than too many of the showrooms from which they are are sold. I liked the very straightforward sales process, and would willing see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| 2010 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
I wanted to be one of the people to form the bandwagon, not jump on it later. In the early 1990s, Toyota created a serious luxury competitor, and is now one of the top 3 luxury mfrs. Hyundai is poised to out-Lexus, Lexus, and I want to be part of that. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
The Genesis has had excellent reports from ALL sources. Car of the year etc. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons | ||
| Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
| 2010 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
I dislike that some people still consider Hyundai a "cheap" Korean import with poor quality and reliability. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Not much image cachet. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Hyundai is not yet an established luxury/presige brand, though this played almost no part in my decision to buy. The car itself is very, very impressive, and the service I receive at my Hyundai dealer is quite good. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Hyundai still has a stigma of because a unreliable, cheap brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
| 2009 | 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic RWD |
Hyundai does not have the pedigree of Mercedes and BMW. see full Hyundai Genesis review |
