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  cvherup

The cadillac DTS is a heavy (roughly 4000 lb), high horsepower car. Aggregates show around 15mpg city and 23mpg highway. If fuel economy is high on your priority list, I would suggest shopping around for a more fuel efficient vehicle. Here is a short list of some of the better sedans available with good fuel economy:

Toyota Camry
With 24 mpg city and 33 highway, the Toyota Camry has respectable gas mileage. Although plain, the vehicle comes with a stellar track record of reliability, a 5 star safety rating from NHTSA, and an affordable price. (A low milage 2012 model runs around $14k)

Honda Accord
The Honda Accord boasts a 27mpg city and 36mpg highway fuel economy rating. The big drawback is power and comfort, but the Accord also has a 5 star safety rating, excelent reliability, and runs very similar to the Camry in price.

Nissan Altima
Gas milage is rated at 27mpg city and 39mpg highway, which is undoubtedly impressive. The power is nothing to crow about, but the Altima offers moderate comfort, a 5 star safety rating, and competetive pricing (A low mileage 2015 model with frills runs around $13k)


If luxury is more your style, then these cars might not be on the top of your list. If you want to shell out a bit more for some of the finer things in life, consider the following vehicles:


Acura TL
Gas milage suffers in the luxury line, but the TL still has a moderate 20mpg city and 29mpg highway. Simple luxuries such as heated seats and leather interiors come standard, and with 280 horsepower in the base model, the TL has some get up and go power. For the years 2009 - 2011, the TL has excellent reliablility ratings, with other years being respectable as well. The 4 star safety rating isn't stellar, but it is respectable. The big drawback is price. It's difficult (but not impossible) to find a TL with less than 50,000 miles that is less than $18k. If you're patient though, it can be done.

Infinity Q40
Gas milage isn't great here, but at 19mpg city and 27mpg highway, things could be worse. a 328 horsepower engine will certainly make things interesting, and the comfort is characteristic of luxury sedans. Safety data is more sporadic than usual, but what ratings there are indicate good, if not great crash protection. JD Power predicts an underwhelming reliability though, so if that's a major concern, you might want to avoid this vehicle. As with most luxury cars, price is quite a bit higher. If you want this model with less than 50,000 miles, be prepared to go right to the top of your $18k budget.


These are just a few of the many great cars available to purchase today. Hopefully though, this list will establish a base line and help you get started with your search. If you want my personal opinion, I'd go with the Camry. Reliability is huge in my book, and the Camry has proven over and over that it is one of the most reliable cars, period. If you'd rather have that extra power, tech, and comfort, it would be difficult to go wrong with the TL.

As always though, my advice for whatever vehicle you choose is to buy from a reputable dealer with a warranty, or have a certified mechanic that you trust give the vehicle a thorough inspection before purchasing. This will buy peace of mind, and offer some buyer protection against the many vehicles currently on the market with hidden mechanical issues. Good luck and happy buying!



good gas mileage
  para7dox

The Mazda 3 with Skyactiv does have an AutoManual transmision. If you are not getting the response you want put the shifter in its manual position and shift down one or two gears. The engine will then rev close to redline and provide plenty of 'go'. This is one of the nicest autos I have driven and I have driven sticks most of my life.

Not the car for me...
  Dnslater

Forgot about the TSX. Nice handling car and space is similar to the Sportwagen, which is to say much larger than the other German compact wagons. You can still find them with relatively low miles if you look carefully and with the naturally aspirated engine they will run forever with cheap maintenance. One of the downsides is the 5 speed auto.

post-Volvo future?
  mwcten

If your nephew has $2k in cash, he can buy a car outright for that $2k that will cost less to keep on the road and that will be more reliable than a $12k Cruze, Focus or Fiesta. A $2k Craigslist Toyota Echo or Scion Xa or Xb (early 00's, 150k-250k miles) just won't typically need any expensive parts, unlike Chevy and Ford's dual-clutch disasters. I'm not making this up - check the data under the reliability tab on this site. And that's to say nothing of the insurance costs saved by not having collision on a car you're making payments on. And really, a reliable $2k car would be the smart way to start out. People who want to stay poor make car payments. People who want to improve their financial situation pay cash money.

If you're dead set on dropping $10k-ish though, the Honda Fit is the smart choice. Regarding the recall, literally no one had died from Honda Fit airbag malfunctions last I checked. Sure; if you drive them in the salty southern Florida air for another 10 years, they might send out shrapnel if they go off, but that's not typical usage. Get it fixed when its convenient. I'm driving around in my '09 Fit that needs the same recall and it's just not a big priority. You're at least an order of magnitude more likely to die in a Fit because they didn't put Electronic Stability Control in all of them until '12 than from any airbag issues. The Yaris, Corolla and Civic are reliable cars too if you can actually get them for a good price relative to kbb value.

Reliable, efficient, safe sedan, coupe or hatch for under $12k
  colin42

Don't worry about the airbag recall. It will be taken care of - you'll just need to take it to a dealer.

I'd avoid the Focus unless you get a manual for the rasons you stated. The C-Max doesn't have the same issue and is in budget - avoid the Energi model as the earily ones had issues..

I'd also avoid the Chevy Cruise as well. (http://dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Chevrolet_Cruze.html)

I'd suggest a gen 3 Prius - bullet proof reliabiltiy and 50 mpg. A 2010 can be had for < $6500.

Also look at the Chevy Volt - they have shown to be reliable and can be had for well under $12000. (http://dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Chevrolet_Volt.html). Look for a 2013 or newer they had a slightly larger battery and the hold function. I had a 2013 (leased) and now have a 2105. The biggest complaint is rear leg room. Obviously ths would only work if he had the ability to plug it in nightly.

With all hybrids they have a powertrain warranty of 8 years / 100,000 miles so look for one with a good amount of mileage before the warrenty expires.

Reliable, efficient, safe sedan, coupe or hatch for under $12k
  colin42

If you could consider used an Acura TSX wagon would work for you, howevery they've been out of production ofr a few years now.

Buick are due to release a wagon of the Regal later this year, if you can wait that long. Other than the VW there really aren't many choices.

So I'd suggest trying a few of the compact SUV's - Mazda CX-5 would be my choice or even CX-9 if you want a little more space.

Finally consider a Ford Flex - again might not be to your likling but it's close to a large wagon. MPG is on the low side but certianly easy to eat the miles

post-Volvo future?
  colin42

so maybe this wouldn't hit the reliability mark but why not a Mini? Look for a gen 2 cooper.

I'd also look at the Kia Soul - fun and spacious. Mpg improved with the 6 spd automatic in 2012.

For an out the box idea have you considered leasing? Consider a Mini Clubman very spacious and stylish

Fun/stylish, low-maintainence cost - used car for teen driver
  Dnslater

Keep in mind that the Alltrack only has a "lift" of .6", so the additional height of the cargo area is not really an issue. It is essentially an appearance package compared to the AWD sportwagen. They do come more nicely equipped than the Sportwagen version so you are paying for some added value. That said, the Golf Sportwagen is the more economical choice and is a great platform for upgrades.

post-Volvo future?
  LectroFuel

Unfortunately, manuals are becoming obsolete and it's hard to look past that. You might not like Dnslater's choice of a Golf Alltrack because you mentioned you didn't like lifting things into a car with a high load floor, you didn't like Subarus (the Outback is lifted), and you like cornering ability. The Golf Alltrack is a good choice if you off road often, but it doesn't have the same handling ability as a Golf Sportwagon, which has a lower load floor, gets better MPG, rides nicer, and has better handling.

I'd recommend the Golf Sportwagon because of those reasons. You can get a fully loaded one in your budget easily at below $33k. The Alltrack would be $3k more only for off road ability. Also, a TDI would work for you well, but we all know how that ended. The Golf Sportwagon SEL with lighting and driver assistance package is what you should get. I couldn't add a picture of the Sportwagon to the left, so I used a golf plus (I don't even know what that is).

post-Volvo future?
  mwcten

For the vehicle you describe, a Honda Fit would be what I'd recommend. It's on the "practical" side as opposed to the "sporty" side. Alternately, a Scion Xa/Xb (the 04-06, not the 08+)/Xd might be good (also on the practical side). With these cars, I wouldn't even be scared of getting older higher milage models or spending less; they'll still be reliable. On the sportier side of things, you could get a Mazda 3 hatch with the 2.5l engine, but you'll take a little reliability and fuel economy hit. The hot hatch market is just not that developed in the US, and the cars which some consider stylish generally have poor reliability; the Minis and Fiats being perhaps the worst offenders.

I'd agree with the previous poster that safety is worth looking at; I'm skeptical that it will be found in older European vehicles. Based on my readings of the IIHS driver fatality data/reports, electronic stability control seems to trump everything else. Crash avoidance > crash performance; to say nothing of the pretty great strides that have been made in crash performance over the years.

Fun/stylish, low-maintainence cost - used car for teen driver
  patm64

I'm on my 3rd Honda Accord so clearly, I'm a fan. I've also owned a Mazda 6 and its predecessor, the 626, and the quality on Mazdas have improved over the years (and they were good to begin with). I haven't owned a Toyota in ages but the reviews for the Camry have been much stronger in recent years after a dropoff 7 or 8 years back.

The one thing I suggest about the Accord is to go for a long test drive. The biggest complaint about the current generation is the seats. A number of people have found them uncomfortable on longer drives, some especially so. I was every explicit about this with the salesman who understood. I then took an hour long test drive to see for myself.

down sizing a little
  Dnslater

If you don't like the Subaru Outback, which has blossumed into a full SUV, and don't want to go SUV then the VW Sportwagen or AWD Alltrack is probably your best option. Remember they are also making an AWD, non Alltrack version of the Sportwagen. They give up a bit of space to the V70, but otherwise are solid vehicles and have good back seat space. They feel high quality and have good handling on the solid VW/Audi MBQ platform. A roof cargo carrier adds a ton of utility. Other European wagons offered in the U.S. aren't nearly as large (Allroad, V60, 328ix, etc...). Engine has decent power and economy is good.

The Sportwagen unfortunately only comes in a manual in base "S" trim, but this trim is well optioned. The Alltrack has VW's excellent dual clutch automated manual, which is a brilliant transmission. My TDI had it, and my GTI has it. Shifts are lighting quick and the manual mode is quite good. It just costs $450 or so to have it serviced every 40,000 miles.

I had a TDI version of the previous Jetta Sportwagen and loved it. I went with a GTI when VW bought my wagon back, only because my wife drives an Odyssey so it isn't our only car. If it was, I would be driving a Golf Sportwagen or an Alltrack again.

post-Volvo future?
  Member4457

Hello,

This only partially applies, but is a response I wrote on my blog (onefastdriver.blogspot.com). Our friend was looking for something very cheap (and safe) which is a hard combination to find at that price. But you might be able to glean a few hints about safety and reliability from the article.

(This is an excerpt from an email to a friend who asked for advice on buying a car for her newly-turned-16 daughter. She wanted to spend $2000 or less.)

$2000 or Less: An unsolveable dilemna?

Here Come the Swedes

Unfortunately, these days, there isn't much out there that is very safe at that price ($2000). An exception exists with old Volvo's. They are quite safe - both station wagons and sedans; I'm thinking the 240's, and the 700-900 series - with the classic look. I believe that most in those series were 5 cylinders. Newer models include the S40/60/80's and their equivalent wagons: V50/70. Volvo's are a little higher maintenance than some cars, except for the 240 series. Expect mileage to be in the low to mid 20's on the older models and anywhere from mid-20's to low 30's in the newer versions. The Saab 9000 series are extremely safe too. Their maintenance can be higher too, but you could run them straight into a brick wall and they'd be fine. I've owned several. They tend to have minor electrical problems and periodic (every 50k or so) replacements of the Direct Ignition cassette which costs about $400. Their snow traction is superb. Saab 900's are also quite safe and tend to be more reliable. The 9000 turbos and the 900's get good gas mileage (low 30's on the highway). The non-turbo'd versions of the 9000's achieves about 23 mpg.

Enticing

I'd stay away from any of the early-ish Hondas, Toyotas, Hyundais, Mazdas etc. They all had crash test problems until well into the 2000's. Structurally, I seen many that were severely compromised here at a local body shop that I pass every day. This, of course, is just an opinion.

A Trusty Land Yacht

Land Cruisers are also extremely safe and incredibly reliable. They're a little more cost-wise. Don't even worry a minute about the mileage on these. Mine has 220,000 and runs perfect ... every single day. They routinely run up to 400,000 miles if you don't run them out of oil. The main wear item on them is seats and timing belts. You often have to buy covers or tape up the rips on the older ones. They're generally slow, have great 4wd systems, and are not fuel efficient. They'll seat 7. Probably best stick to the FJ60 and FJ80's series. Lexus has a nearly exact equivalent called the LX 450 which is an FZ80 straight-line 6 cylinder. Gas mileage is 12-15 but also provides the greatest margin for safety and reliability combined.

Final Thoughts

The main thing is that your kid is going to be driving at the most compromised time of his/her life ... distractions, inattention, inexperience, out late etc. I'd personally stay away from anything too fast based on the (lack of) judgement I've seen so far from my teenage son. Safety trumps all, in my opinion.

Fun/stylish, low-maintainence cost - used car for teen driver
  capricorn169ka

Anyone out there think Hyundai has cheap paint. After years of Nissan's and Hondas I have a top of the line Santa Fe Ultimate in Monaco white. I think the paint is thin.scratches easily and overall after one year is just looking gross. I keep it waxed regularly with a spray detailing wax and it looks shiny and nice. But the few chips show the paint is so think in comparison to my Nissan Murano. The paint on it was bullet proof. Say least it seemed to be. I loved my Murano but it spent to much time bring in the shop at Nissan. I really got screwed over on that car. But I loved it when it was working right.
My 2016 Santa Fe feels okay just the materials are kind of cheaper quality than I am used to. I do like all the features and I can't complain , I have the Ultimate package. I did spend extra for dash cover ,console cover, laser floor liners , door covers to protect them from the dogs. Cargo liner alone was four hundred. The Seats look dirty though . I have covered the beige seats and I vacuum regularly. It does beige leather is just impossible to clean. Any ideas out there? They are heated and cooled seats.

Cheap ass paint
  mwcten

What about a Honda Element? You'd have to get one a little older and with more miles, but they're pretty relible and they do EXACTLY what you want (hold stuff plus 4 people) and can even be hosed out to clean.

Alternately, yeah the Mazda 5 might work, or just bite the bullet and get a reliable normal sized minivan, like a Toyota Sienna. Pickup trucks may have horsepower, but the minivan gives you the power where it counts - in your bank account.

Economical Heavy Duty Family Hauler
  mwcten

I think it depends what your offroad needs are. If a CR-V gets you where you need to go, then that will be your most reliable and economical bet; or it would be in the US at least. If you need something more, you might want to look into a Subaru (Outback or Forrester probably) and see if one of them meets your needs. The other options you list don't have the best reliability. The Suzuki Jimmy (Samauri in the US?) is a legit 4wd vehicle; as opposed to the other awd vehicles you list, so it will have some off-road advantages from that. I think the Xterra is decent off road too (not really familiar with it) but it is truck-based; in the US at least they're typically found with v6 engines so they don't get very good fuel economy and won't be as cheap to maintain.

Cheap and fuel-efficient 4WD for off road and city
  Member4457

Hello,

The following are more observations than overt recommendations. Hondas and Toyotas have been traditionally the most reliable vehicles out on the road. But lately, Honda reliability has dropped somewhat. Some versions of Hondas are constructed in Mexico, and one model I drove seemed like the fit and finish wasn't quite up to par. The latest style of Honda Accord has been somewhat polarizing among the loyal brand owners. The new Camry is really quite nice - spunky, quite, plenty of seating space. The 2018 model is going to look quite a bit different than the 2017, so keep that in mind when you're thinking about how valuable your version will be. The 2018 looks very nice, so it could decrease the values of the 2017s. The Corolla IM presents well too; it's a converted version from the Scion brand which Toyota owned.

Kias and Hyundais have progressed to offer a fairly robust line of vehicle options which combine to make a very good value for the money. It does seem like they might wear "faster" than the Japanese cars, though. Also, gas mileage has not always been as good as advertised. They've been sued over that recently. Last month, I rode in a hybrid Elantra and was impressed with how quiet it was - as well as fuel efficient. Not on par with other hybrids, but commendable, just the same.

The Impreza sedan has become more refined in the last iteration. It returns very good gas mileage, and technology allows it to run in FWD most of the time, switching to AWD only when needed. My biggest complaint with Subarus has been the exterior paint quality and the lack of a solid feel in the doors. But all safety tests indicate they are some of the safest vehicles out there.

Mazdas have a great sporty feel and are equally reliable. Gas mileage is great too. You might find that they're a little tight interior-wise. They're geared (sometimes) more for a sporty fit for the driver seat than space.

The last one that might be of interest is the Jetta. I'm not sure if the Eos is still manufactured, but it's the same platform. The Eos is more of a two seater + 2, but has a nice retracting hardtop. The Jetta, though, has become much more refined over time - especially in the transmission. It's nearly seamless and comes from the technology that the DSG transmission offers. Fuel mileage is very good. Nearly as good as the diesels were. They present an opportunity, price-wise, because the the market was flooded with VW diesels that were bought back from the owners (huge lawsuit over manipulating fuel emissions software). When a manufacturer has too many used cars on the market, it brings down the prices of all of the new models, which would be good for you. Still, while the 4 cylinder engine (not a 5 anymore) is reliable, I still have found Audis and VWs to have electronic problems long term.

I have a blog (onefastdriver.blogspot.com) that you can take a look at if you care to. It has a review of cars that I've actually owned. I don't get paid for it nor am I sponsored by anyone.



down sizing a little
  eabpmn

I did NOT type that the Subarua had head gaskets blowing up - nor did my mechanics tell me that

They told me that ROUTINE MAINTENANCE includes a head gasket every 75000 miles to keep the engine from blowing up

They are still nightmares in problems - have a lot of 'em around here to

(1) 2009-2012 - 50/50 whether it would get to 100,000K without blowing up an engine (cause - head gasket type & timing belt). If you got a good one, you would be fine. If you got the other 50% -spend lots and lots of money

(2) 2013 - words "engine" "oil" "settlement" and the phrase "class action" attached to this year. Company went from a timing belt to a timing chain but still hadn't sorted the head gasket thing

(3) 2014 - no lawsuits, not Found On Road Dead at 50,000 over the head gasket but wanting the 75000-mile- head-gasket thingand thenread this website and other reviews. The CVT is a problem

(4) 2015 & 2016.....ah yes Aside from having the heat and everything else controlled off that $3000 touchscreen (no computer screen can be counted on to go for decades) they were recalled for

(a) engine, oil, exhaust = catch on fire

(b) windshield washer = catch on fire

(c) and my personal favorite, some chip malfunctions while the car is going down the road and turns off the steering. According to the recall notice SUbaru said that having the steering turn off "might" cause an accident.

The history of SUbaru is one of great little wagons - before 2009.

Since 2009, it has been one thing after another.

THere are a lot around of them here - beaches, summer resort area with nothern winters though. And it slipped out from the Subaru salesman that "most" of the SUbarus running around are on lease not purchase


They are fine if

* you don't mind 3 recalls in the first few months that you have the car - recalls for things that could destroy the car (that catch on fire stuff) or get you killed or hurt (turn off the steering!)

* and you lease it rather than buying and keeping it.


SUbaru owners are a lot like Priu owners - a bit of a cult thing going on. In a Subaru forum i came across, they thought it jsut wonderful that their few-months-old cars were being recalled becasue the steering could be turned off without warning. Were cooing on about how wonderful SUbaru was in being 'Proactive" ....... Uh huh.... How about TEST the @#$%! stuff BEFORE you shove it out on the market?




Quiet, Fuel Efficient SUV
  colin42

eabpmn


Data trumps opinions every single time.


1. This site shows that each generation since 2010 has had less issues
http://www.truedelta.com/Subaru-Outback/reliability-253

2. Look at the powertrain chart by model year athttp://dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Subaru_Outback.html
from 2013 they have lower failures than average


From Subarus are showing much improved since 2010 and have a better than averge reliability since 2013 when an updated engine was used. Older Outbacks i.e. pre 2010 have had numerious head gasket failures on the 4 cylinders. The H6 that didn't have the same issue with head gaskets but drunk premium gas aka ~ 17mpg in city, 22mpg onhighway

The 2015+ Outback is a good suggestion for this person. Not sure why I didn't think of it ;-)



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  052516sm

Funny thing about people's opinions about cars. Everybody has one. You're correct. Head gasket failure is mentioned regarding the Subaru 4 cylinder engines. However, based on my personal experience, and that of my family and friends, none of us have actually experienced this, nor any other major issue with these vehicles. One of my son's lives in Massachuesttes, in an area that can have snow from early October through the end of April. Around there, a lot of people who prefer a car-like vehicle, drive a Subaru or an Audi.

As I research the purchase of a new vehicle myself, for whatever vehicle I investigate, I've found that the Internet is full of poor quality claims (oil comsumption, brake wear, transmission, electrical, suspension, etc issues). At the end of the day, at least for me, after I've done my research on the Internet, while helpful, I look to family and friends to see what their experience has actually been. Also, particularly for a vehicle purchase, I take a very serious look at the dealer's business practices and the capability of their repair shop (all vehicles, at some point, will have a problem). Once the vehicle is purchase, it's been my experience that the quality of the relationship you have with the dealer is of utmost importance, particularly is a problem is encountered that requires their assistance in working with the manufacturer.

Regards

PS: My neighbor traded in her BMW 3 series for a Mazda 3. She loves the reliability and gas mileage, and lower cost of ownership, but misses the power and sportyness. Every decision has tradeoffs.



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  eabpmn

Uh...define what you mean by "fuel efficent". Some mean 20-25 mg. Some mean 30mpg. My small wagons (haul as much as the smaller Suvs) get 32-34 mpg - nothing out there can match that. (Please do not mention the Prius - not in the snow and not with the @#$%! $3500 computer screen!)

Assuming you mean in that 28-30ish mpg range, here is the list my mechanics (general and transmission specilaists) and the large parts store staid have said are good on reliability

* Honda

* Accura (with high riced parts)

* Lexus (with very high priced parts)

* Toyota

They shake their heads "no" on the Fords Gm & Chevys. Mention SUbaru and they smile and say "head gasket every 75,000 miles - only $2000."

If you are driving in the north with snow...well even the Parts & Service Manager at the Toyota dealer did not have anything good to say about hybrids in the snow ....comments were along the lines of the "@#$!hybrid can't get itself out of 4 inches of snow"

Mazda engines are great - can't kill them even at 200,000 miles BUT the small SUV is quite high into the cargo area (measured nearly 36"!) and their hatchbacks haul less than my little wagons (no longer made.)

Keep in mind that thetaller the vehicle, the higher the center of gravity and the higher the cetner of gravity, the more likely they are to not be good on narrow winding roads and the more likely they are to turn off if they slide off the road.

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  052516sm

I've owned a 2011 Subaru Outback since new. After 55K miles, no problems. Great in all types of weather, plus has sufficient space for hauling stuff. Fairly comfortable (cloth seats), which are quite good on long trips (I routinely take 500+ mile round to visit family approx. 10 times per year). Regular gas mileage around town is approx 23 mpg, while highway mpg is 30+.

The only downside for me is the poor quality of the paint and the (too) thin metalwork. From my experience, the vehicle suffers dents too easily, the exterior rubber is hard to keep fresh-looking (black color easily fades) and the paint is very thin and easily scratched.

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  Member3444

I owned a 2004 Chryler Crossfire for about a year and a half. I bought it used.

This is the only vechicle I've ever bought based strictly on its looks. Even though I no longer have it, I still think it's one of the most beautiful cars ever made. People would stare at it.

It was in nearly mint physical condition, ran like new when I bought it and had very few miles (less than 20k).

But it was an absolute nightmare to own. It developed a mysterious misfire that no one could diagnose, and what felt like a fuel pump problem that similarly no one could diagnose. It would become undriveable in moderate to heavy rain, even though, once again, no one could figure out why it misfired to the point of stalling in this type of weather. I was fortunate enough to find an independent dealer who had experience working on Crossfires...but even he could not diagnose and correct the problem. The car also developed a vibration at around forty miles an hour that had to be tire and/or wheel related...even though the wheels and tires were all checked and rebalanced, and even though they checked out as properly balanced and did not exhibit any other issues. The car also had the well known and common, sometimes-won't-shift-out-of-park-problem. All of this forced me to give up on it and sell it.

But it was a gorgeous car.

College Car
  Member4457

First off, let me apologize for the grammar and edits. I am doing this on my phone and am terrible at texting. However, I have owned a numbers of suvs and came away unimpressed with some of them, the rav4 included.

A small Suv that really catches my attention is the Buick encore which has experienced a rising owner satisfaction and continued tech improvements over the last few years.

It is reasonably priced and contains many of, if not most, of the technology of the upper level models of the Buick line. It is very well appointed and carries the whisper tech that truly makes a for a quiet ride. Fuel economy is very good although it's not a quick car.

You might check out my blog on a number of cars I have owned. There is no connection to dealers, or Auto makers, and I don't make any money off of the site.

Onefastdriver.blogspot.com

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  mpg350

Maybe look at the IS350 from Lexus....some luxuary and very reliable cars.

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