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  LectroFuel

@Chrispope. I've sat in an Outlander at an Auto Show and I didn't like it at all. Cheap interior, the whole car feels like it was from the mid 2000s, and the only good things I've heard about are the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. I don't even see Mitsubishi's future in America. If you absolutely need an SUV with 3 rows and not the size of a midsize, go with a Nissan Rogue, although it isn't as reliable. I agree with mwcten, get a minivan. Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna.

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  harristh

when coming down a hill slowly and slowing down to almost a stop, but not completely and then stepping on the gas, transmission downshifts with delay when the vehicle is not in complete stop. in other words, engine rpm goes up and no downshifting for 2-3 seconds. this is a problem. 3 times went to the dealer and no solution. vehicle is a 2011 venza with V6 and 6 speed transmission.



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  PJam

Yeah ... I was like, great car, no problem. I have a 2012. But ... it's a manual and the transmission gave up on me. Loss of power ... could have had a bad ending. VW is not exactly willing to help as the car is out of warranty.

Disappointed ... I'll be posting an update on cost soon ...

The car I love to hate (and I do hate it)
  gulfman

My 2012 SRX averages around 16 miles per gallon. The majority of driving is local 80% local and 20% highway.

fuel economy
  ahm1127

I like the Subaru's, they have almost everything you need. Only thing is you dont drive much for a car, cars hate sitting!
Another thing is the Turbo, they can only lesson the reliability unless properly maintained. Most people dont maintain thier Turbos.
Hope you have good luck with your next vehicle

Super-reliable baby safe fun daily driver - Manual Transmission
  mkaresh

You seem to think that if a car is reliable, then no other shortcomings it has should be mentioned. But reliability is only one facet most people consider when buying a car. Cars that are reliable and drive poorly. Cars can drive well but be unreliable. They're two separate things.

If someone is only interested in reliability, then they should only review our reliability stats (and speak to mechanics like yourself) and ignore reviews, which tend to focus on things other than reliability.

2013 Honda Civic EX-L Review
  Member4673

I read it. It included a number of references to your 2012 Civc review, a car you "slammed" and "hated driving." Anyone that didn't buy a Civic in 2012 based on your review made an inferior choice, and they did it after coming to a site that is supposed to provide useful reliability data. Consumer Reports got that one wrong too, but what's the point of mirroring their loss of credibility? The wholesale selling out of automotive journalism has created the myth that there are no more bad cars, but nothing could be further from the truth. There's a 46,000 mile 2014 Grand Caravan in my shop with water in three of its cylinders. It lasted longer than two Chrysler 200s I've seen in the past three months. Fords are little better, and many Fords are worse, as are Chevrolet Sonics.

Honda has jumped the shark with the latest Civic and CR-V thanks to efforts to meet devious CAFE standards, but well informed people filled their driveways with the last generations while the shill-press told them to steer-clear. Ever wonder why "non-enthusiasts" buy the cars that work the best and are the happiest with them? It's because they aren't misinformed sheep who believe the cretins at Car and Driver instead of their mechanics.

2013 Honda Civic EX-L Review
  Cynder

I purchased the XC-90 R-Design (instead of trim, think styling treatment). My early experience was with a failing battery which turned out to be a software flaw. Not having any issues otherwise. Nearly 10,000 miles. Some of those miles are spent in rugged arctic terrain and temps.

reliability of Volvo XC90
  jls313

Went to the NAIAS yesterday. For me the car of choice there was the Nissan Qashqai (Sorry hate the Rogue Sport moniker). Funny, apparently Nissan doesn't think Americans are capable of pronouncing Qashqai, but Canadians are since they are keeping the name in Canada.

Car is perfect size with easy ingress and egress (a priority for me) and an interior much nicer than its price point would suggest. Even has soft touch on the center console something I didn't see on any vehicel I sat in at the show. Expect it will have good mileage and the only drawback would be the CVT. Not familiar with Nissan's CVT performance. Noted somewhere online that the 2.0 engine may have stop-start technology. Something I'm not crazy about.

U.S. version will be made in Japan. Not a bad thing Still on hold for a year or so, but this vehicle clearly is the front runner.



Looking For better ingress and egress from my next car.
  Member1304

Purchased T8 Inscription in May 2016. I was worried about first model year problend for completely new platform but 7000 trouble free miles so far.

reliability of Volvo XC90
  mwcten

Well, that's certainly good you don't need 10,000 "k of torque. That would be, lets see, 10,000,000 inch pounds of torque or 833,333 foot pounds of torque. That would be quite a feat for an internal combustion engine!

You're in luck, though. I just happen to have a vehicle with the specs you mention. You can see pictures of it - just type that description into google images. The first picture that comes up; that's my vehicle!

I'll tell you what, just reply on this forum with your bank info and I'll get the $21,000 from you and I'll get the vehicle on the next ship to Nigeria pronto! Best of all, you only have to pay one time, not 3!

Love a lean, accident free, no maintenance or any other problems
  mwcten

I don't have first hand experience with them. That is cheap, and they are significantly cheaper than the equivalent honda/toyota, even Kia/Hyundai's for the same year/milage. I've heard bad things about their interiors and ride quality. But if you're OK with the test drive, they're supposed to be reasonably reliable, so maybe it meets your needs?

It might be worth considering what Toyota or Honda you can get for the same $, though. You might like an '11 Sienna better than the '15 Outlander.

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  mwcten

Oh, man. You've got a lot of options.

To start; yeah, you're on the right track looking Japanese. For your criteria, I don't think I'd look anywhere else (except for maybe a Pontiac Vibe GT? but that car cheats by using a Japanese engine and engineering).

Secondly, if you're serious about that 10 year old/125k miles restriction, that will restrict you to only the mass market, non-luxury Japanese vehicles. Among these, A Mazda 3 is generally acknowledged to be the most fun to drive. You can get the 2l engine version for better reliablility and fuel efficiency or the 2.5l for more power. As a side note, a stock late 00's Mazda 3 with just the 2l engine has almost exactly the same 0-60 time as a stock v6 late 80's early 90's Mustang/Camaro/Firebird (like 9 seconds, manual transmission). You should be able to find a well kept late 00's Mazda 3 with under 125k for a bit under $6k. I'm honestly not sure if there any newer RELIABLE cars with better performance that you'll be able to find within your budget. Certainly there are turbo VW's (or even the turbo Mazdaspeed's), but those are so much less reliable.

If you can relax the 10 years/125k miles thing, there are a lot of interesting options that open up.

Lexus made some nice cars in the late 90's/early 00's. The IS300 and the SC300 are fabulous cars; the 3-liter 2jz inline 6 is a beast of an engine; they're RWD even. For a few grand you can turbo them for huge HP gains; stock internals even. And if you want V8, RWD, there's the SC400 (for my money, I wouldn't, but you could).

From Acura, an early 00's RSX's; even the type S would be in your price range.

For Hondas you've got the Prelude; especially the SH for more power.

Infiniti G20's (a little older, less powerful, you'd be able to afford a super nice one) or G35/G37's (newer/nicer; you'd only be able to afford a higher milage/thrashed out one) could also be worth a look.

So that's a lot of options. Honestly, if I were to make my short list from all these cars to definately check out, I'd probably start with a Mazda 3 and a Lexus IS300. Test drive one of each from a meticulous, knowledgable owner; learn about the cars, and go from there. They're both reliable; not-crazy-performance, but not slouches either.

Reliable and sturdy, but still fun to drive.
  Henry2024

I agree with your review wholeheartedly and these are the exact points that I don't like with this generation of Honda Accord. As for the uncomfortable seats, I have turned the headrests around and added a foam neck cushion and that did the trick for me, but I am a bit shorter than you, so this solution may not work for you.

I agree that the sound system is terrible, in fact, probably the worst sound system that I've ever had in any vehicle. This sounds like a sound system for a base model car from the 1990s, with no bass at all. I don't know how this can be remedied, and I think that Honda's active noise cancellation system has something to do with it.

Reliable car - if y ou can put up with the sound system and seats
  mkaresh

Did you misread the review? Reliability is listed as the top reason to buy the Civic instead of the Dart. Also, as noted in the review, it was written before we had any reliability data for the Dart, but called buying the Dodge a gamble.

2013 Honda Civic EX-L Review
  LectroFuel

I'd mainly look at midsized SUVs because in your budget, you could get a top of the line one and still have money to spare.

I don't know if the Pathfinder would be the best choice because the CVT transmission is notorious for failing in the new ones, but Consumer Reports shows that they have fixed it in the current 2017 Pathfinders. It's a comfy car, but it's a little outdated and still has other problems with reliability. The good thing is that it can tow 6000 lbs.

One of the most overlooked SUVs, but still pretty popular is the Kia Sorento. I've driven it and it drives like a luxury car. The V-6 AWD can tow 5000 pounds with the towing package. The Pilot and this are really good SUVs. The reliablity has been very good too.

I'd take a look at a 2017 Honda Pilot Elite because it has good reliability, it's comfy, it's up to date with technology. It has a pretty good AWD system too where you can select the type of terrain you are on. It can tow 4500 pounds in AWD and 2000 in FWD.

The Toyota Highlander is also a good choice because it has a nice blend of reliability, up to date technology, comfort, and off road capability. It can tow 5000 pounds with the towing package on the V-6 model and 3500 pounds with the hybrid, which is AWD. One thing I found with the Highlander was that the side mirrors were very large and restricted visibility. They would cover up someone on a crosswalk from the driver's view.

Family and 16 foot boat
  colin42

Your 2200lb trailer and boat can be towed by most mid size SUV's. Also you budget would cover most new regular brands or most used premium brand Mid size SUV's.

I'd look at. Lexus RX 350 AWD. Avoid the 450h, although it's rated at 3500lbs towing there is info from users that it can't reverse up an incline due to reversing only using the rear electric motor.

If you want body on frame look at the Toyota 4 runner.

Friends have a Nissan Pathfinder mainly due to the comfortable ride and quiet interior. Not sure now good the CVT is when towing but worth a look

Family and 16 foot boat
  mkaresh

A minor correction to Member3671's excellent post: the AWD system in the Audi allroad is not Haldex-based. It uses a Torsen center differential. The A3/S3, Q3, and TT (with transverse powertrains) are the only North American Audis with the Haldex system.

Legact GT wagon replacement
  mkaresh

Interesting. The leases on those can be very attractive.

Fun but practical car for mid life man
  LectroFuel

First of all, the Scion iQ and Fiat should be the absolute last on your list. I totally agree with mwcten on his recommendations, I'd get a used 2011 Honda Fit. The Yaris is a really cheap, reliable car that is also chintzy.

Sub-compact car with low miles at lowest cost
  Member4673

The irony is that this is a reliability tracking website. You did anyone who listented to your Honda Civic reveiews a disservice, as time has proven that there was no better choice. On the other hand buying a Dart provided many a life lesson. I work as a service writer, and I've seen quite a few Darts that are so far gone that they're no longer being repaired at retail prices. Maybe shade tree mechanics and shadier state inspection sticker vendors can keep them on the road for another couple of years, but they'll have their work cut out for them. When the warranty stops, so does the car.

2013 Honda Civic EX-L Review
  LectroFuel

There is no substitute for a minivan. We own a 2002 Odyssey and it has been through a lot, but it still works. It is so practical. I'd recommend a 2014 Odyssey or newer, but if you need AWD, go for a 2015 Sienna.

Van
  colin42

First off thank you for providing insight on your driving habits and car needs. Many of the recent info requests have been more like "I need a car what is best?" To which my answer is a Mercedes S Class Maybach.

It a heuristic to state that Toyota, Honda and a lesser extent Nissan offer the most reliable brand. Although this is true at a macro level there are some models that buck this trend. The answer to you question is to dig into the data to see which models you can trust and which statistically have issue. That what the reliability data on True Delta allow you to gain insight on which models to look at.

The problem is for you budget the previous owner(s) has at least equal impact on the quality as the brand or model.

If you budget was just a little higher I.e. $6-8k I'd say investigate if a Nissan Leaf would work for you. At $4k look for a 2nd gen Toyota Prius for overall lowest risk of issues

Alternatively because you are in Atlanta. I would look up Steve Lang. He is a used car dealer based around Altanta who is honest and helpful (and from what I can tell friends with Michael Karesh). He writes articles on how to buy used cars and he runs another car reliably site called Dashboard Lights that give info on older car reliability. He also has a Facebook page where he sells cars he buys at Auction for $500 over his cost. ("Search48 hours and a used car" on Facebook)




Inexpensive car for a daily 20 minute commute and regular errands within same distance.
  Member2818

I have a 2009 and 2012 Mazda 6 in my household. Both have been very mechanically reliable. The 2009 has Appox 125K miles with no major repairs. There is a slight rust issue on the lower inside of the drivers side door. I have touch it up a number of time but have not arrested the issue...not a big deal though. The 2012 has only been in the shop for the crappy infotainment system. Mechanically flawless with great gas mileage too. I have previously owned 2 other Mazdas that were great til about 150k when they had some electrical problems (84 GLC and 90 Protege'). Check consumer reports used car reliabilty chart.
In my opinion very good cars and cheap to keep.

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  Member2262

Have you roamed around the Mazda forums? I can only speak to my experience with 2015 Mazda 6. I bought one new for my daughter and it has been flawless through 20K miles. The driving experience far exceeds the Accord. We get great MPG - 37-38 highway and she is averaging 28 overall. One thing to be aware of on later models is the energy reacapture system they are putting on upper line models. According to the service department it requires a deep cycle battery that costs $300. I would think that negates a lot of the benefit as I have not heard there is a big diff in MPG. For me less complexity is more. Good luck with the purchase. I had an Accord back in 2003-2012 and had a wonderful dealer but soured on the brand after my timing chain stretched and needed to be replaced ($1200) at 100K which I considered to be premature failure. I asked for a contribution from Honda and got nothing. Honestly, I would have been happy if they discounted the chain $100 but they denied me any assistance. SO for my next car I got an Infiniti without even stepping into an Acura showroom. Best move ever - a great car and awesome reliability 95K miles and no repairs.

see

http://www.samarins.com/reviews/mazda6.html

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