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  LectroFuel

I'm gonna assume you are towing the motorcycles.

The Toyota Tundra is the most reliable full size truck and has also consistently had higher owner satisfaction than GM, Ford, and RAM trucks. It doesn't have the most modern design, but if you need reliability, this is the truck. All safety features are standard on the 2018 Tundra. The Tacoma is the most reliable compact truck, but has recently had transmission issues. Tacomas 2015 and older are very reliable, but don't have the same towing rating as the Tundra.

Motorcycle hauler, road trips, decent fuel economy, reliable
  LectroFuel

Dnslater's response was perfect. The Honda Pilot, though, has an unreliable 9 speed transmission in the Touring and Elite trims for the 2016s and newer.

I wouldn't recommend going with a Tahoe, Suburban, or other truck based cars because they are too big and boxy, not efficient, less comfortable, and too expensive. The only thing they give over unibody SUVs are towing, off road capability, and sometimes a little more space. The 4Runner is truck based, but it is very reliable, good at off roading, and has a decent amount of space without being excessively large like the Tahoe and Suburban. A Toyota Highlander is better if you don't want the larger tow rating or ground clearance. The 4Runner, however, is the closest you can get to a Jeep and still be super reliable. I have owned a 4Runner and it was a great car, but uncomfortable. I know several people with 4Runners and they have loved them and bought more than one.

5,000 lbs should be enough for most people, so I suggest going with the Honda Pilot, Toyota Highlander, or maybe an older Lexus GX (truck based, a 4Runner, but pretty comfortable). The Ridgeline is something you should really check out. It combines the comfort of a car and a bed of a pickup while giving some decent off road capability. It is basically a Pilot with a bed and 5 seats.

My Everything Car
  danlisahall

It isn't clear what you mean when you say "Motorcyle hauler". Are you planning on towing or putting in a bed?
One cycle or several?
What do you estimate the total weight of your cycle(s)?

Motorcycle hauler, road trips, decent fuel economy, reliable
  Dnslater

Can you tell us how much you want to tow and any other specifics? "Good looking" can mean different things to different people, but since you like the Jeep and are considering Pickups I'm guessing you want something rugged or masculine looking. A Honda Pilot or Toyota Highlander can be equipped with a 5,000 lb towing capacity. They are unibody construction so they will be more carelike in ride and handling

If you want something more rugged, but just as reliable, consider a Toyota 4Runner which still comes on a body on frame "truck" chassis. They retain their value because of the reliability reputation though so your money won't go as far as with the Pilot or Highlander. They also are likely to have a bit less space inside due to the construction.

If if you don't mind going bigger, Chevy Tahoe's and GMC Yukon's are pretty reliable as well and can be a great value used. Not as refined on th3 interiors as the Japanese cars, but if there is one thing GM does well, it is trucks and truck bases SUV's.

You might also consider a newer Honda Ridgeline which is a bit of a blend of truck and SUV.


My Everything Car
  NormT

Check out these lease deals for Feburary on C&D website. Go to bottom for the graph of all cars and cuvs.

https://blog.caranddriver.com/199-lease-deals-for-february-2018/

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  LectroFuel

The only powertrain problem worth noting is that on the 4.6L, the ZF 6 speed auto has a higher failing rate than the 3.8L. When I drove one, I thought the V6 3.8L had plenty of power. The 4.6L V8 is much more thirsty, but it gives you over 80 more HP. To fully use the V8's power, you need premium gas or else you will lose 12 HP. The 3.8L has a more reliable transmission.

The main problem affecting the 2009 Genesises are brake pedals that become so spongy that it is difficult to safely stop the car. There are 6 reports of crashed because the brake pedal went to the floor and didn't stop quickly enough. No deaths that I am aware of. It is unlikely to have this problem, but it is the number 1 problem people are having.

Hyundai Genesis 4.6 2009
  LectroFuel

Almost everyone has been in your situation where the dealer says they can't find a problem but you know there is a problem. When a dealer says they can't diagnose a problem, I go to a different dealer. If they diagnose and successfully fix the problem, I write the first dealer a 1 star yelp review, complain, and never use them again. There is also a possibility that your car qualifies for the Lemon Law after the dealer can't diagnose or fix a problem within a certain amount of visits.

My wife had a similar problem with her Odyssey at around 120k miles and I think it turned out being a bad cylinder head, so it was running on 5 cylinders. The CEL was flashing and the engine was idling harshly, but never stalled. It wasn't intermittent like your problem is and was easily diagnosable at our local repair shop. We replaced the idle control valve after it stalled on her twice. This was at 175k miles.

I'm in the process of this now with our 2005 Prius that we are trying to sell. We can't sell it until this annoying A/C problem is fixed. I've had the A/C repaired 4 times in the past 2 years. The compressor was $600 x2. They replaced it and it wasn't fixed. Then the condenser broke once and it broke again a day later. $3k total cost even though all of these parts have a warranty. And it's still broken. They suggest a new part is the problem every time I bring it in. I'm not paying a dime more or I'm reporting them to the BBB. This is despite the fact that my family bought two cars from them. I knew I should have stuck to the independent local shop.

Engine mis-fires and stalls
  LectroFuel

I forgot to say that the Sorento is a very good SUV. I drove one on a road trip and it was close to luxury quality. It doesn't handle well and it is not that big inside, but it rides smoothly and quietly. It has a 10 year/100k mile powertrain warranty. The infotainment system is very easy to use. It gives you a lot of cool features for less money than its competitors. I don't know how it would do towing. The V6 I drove was neither fast or slow. Automatic braking is standard on all trims. The 3rd row seat is cramped.

Mid-size SUV that is reliable, fun to drive, and tows
  LectroFuel

Is there a reason you aren't looking at a minivan? The Honda Odyssey is more practical and has a 3,500 lbs tow rating. Minivans have a larger passenger and cargo area with a similar exterior footprint, ride and handle more like a sedan, and are especially fit for someone with a wheelchair. In my experience, SUVs are more cumbersome to maneuver than a minivan. My wife has a Honda Odyssey and every time she or I drives a midsized SUV, she either hates it or says "it drives like it's twice as large as my van, but it's so small inside" The only SUV that didn't feel this way to me was the Acura MDX, Lexus RX (not really a midsizer), Mazda CX-9, and a Porsche Cayenne.

I have driven the Atlas, CX-9, Highlander, Pilot, 2017 Traverse, MDX, RX, Sorento, and the Porsche Cayenne. None of these are more practical than a minivan unless you need to off-road or tow over 3,500 lbs.

VW Atlas V6: This one felt the largest by far like driving a Tahoe or Suburban. I liked that the 3rd row was pretty spacious (not as spacious as a minivan still), the interior and engine noise were quiet, and the digital instument cluster was nice. I didn't like that the ride was stiff. With the stiff ride, I thought the car would handle well in turns, but it was the worst handling SUV I've driven. The engine was refined, but not powerful enough even with the V6. Just like the Tiguan, the Atlas needs to lose 300 lbs or so. MPGs are not good and I doubt it will be reliable being in its first year and it is a VW. Interior quality was not up to VW or German standards. Car reviewers seem to love this car, but I didn't see what they loved about it.

Mazda CX-9: This one is the best handling midsized SUV by far. It is also considerably smaller inside and has a super small 3rd row. I wouldn't recommend this because of your mom with the wheelchair. I don't know where you would put the wheelchair, like if you would replace the front passenger seat with a wheelchair or if you would put the wheelchair in the trunk. If you put the wheelchair in the trunk, this SUV would be fine I think. It has the nicest interior (and exterior) of any other midsized SUV. It also has had problems with the new turbo engine in its first year. It might be sorted out this year, but we don't know. It's an SUV that makes styling and driving dynamics ahead of practicality.

Toyota Highlander: This SUV is one of the better midsizers. It is the most reliable midsize. I thought it rode very well, better than all of them except for the RX, MDX, Sorento, and 2017 Traverse. The one I drove was quiet inside and materials were decent for the class. The interior is more practical than almost all the others because of the amount of storage and features. All safety features are standard on every trim.

Honda Pilot: I really like this one. It doesn't ride as well as the Highlander, but it's not bad. The interior is better quality than the Atlas and Highlander. The infotainment system is not good and there is no volume or tuning knob. It is easy to get into the 3rd row. It was one of the quieter midsizers. Driving the car, it felt much heavier than it really was, but nothing like the Atlas. The V6 makes it one of the fastest midsizers. People have had problems with the rough 9 speed transmission on the Touring and Elite trims.

Subaru Outback: I haven't driven one, but I've heard that it is super comfortable and great in the snow. Long term reliability is questionable with Subarus because of their tendancy to burn oil and blow head gaskets. I would suggest the V6 because the 2.5L is pretty slow and you are towing. Eye sight seems like it works well and it is easily accessible in the lower-mid trims. It doesn't have 3 rows if you need it, but the trunk is big.

Overall, I think the Pilot, Highlander, and Outback are your best bets. The CX-9 might also be good if you are willing to sacrifice some space and practicality. If you want the best of everything, the Honda Odyssey is definitely the way to go. Good luck and tell us what you buy!

Mid-size SUV that is reliable, fun to drive, and tows
  musicdoesit

DanlisaHALL: Thanks for the input....incidently my wife and I were talking about the goodold days how we both approched car ownership.....time and how fast technolgy changes even from tapes to CD's to now just digitaland allof the new hardware....Thninks about a problem with a display in a dash 10 years from now let alone 15 - 20..Todays cars are not even the ones 8 years ago....I also heard...Source??...a while back that Auto parts places and inventory for so many changes has become a challenge...(nightmare)...and really 7 years of REAL availability of replacement parts is a general rule of thumb...and if you d get parts....they will be cheaply made imports/copies...A freind of ours had a hard time getting an alternator for a 2003 Dodge one of those convertable 2 doors...$545..and 2 of them did not work. A number of people at work are leasing 3 years and out..and although we could pay cash.....why tie up 25,000 -35,000 when you can gt 0% and $500 off yet..or more on some financing deals..I use to really enjoy looking at and running a car for a long time BUT....getting back to your response....WOW we are really thinking about a different approach. YA we would be in 10 years 71 and me 65..withn MAYBE another 10-20 to live yet..and I am sure the USA will see some rough economic times ahead and the value of the dollar and costs will really shake things up...in any case EXPENSES of owning a car will continue to go through the roof. Insurance quotes all come in for the vehicles I mentioned for US $305-310...But the EDGE was $20 cheaper $285 for 6 months than the rest.

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  NormT

In 2016 thr Envision receive the "+" grade from iihs.
"TheBuick Envision, a new midsize SUV, qualifies for theTOP SAFETY PICK+ award from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety."
  danlisahall

Musicdoesit: 15-20 years is a really long time to keep a car. Especially at this time of life. Auto technology is advancing so fast. And as, a 68 year old, I can say changes in one's healthy and abilities can advance kinda fast too! While driving a car till it is rust is a noble, thrifty idea, I might suggest you at least mentally prepare youself for letting go of Ol' Besty a little sooner than 15 years.

Michael's advice about safety featurers is spot on. They are not just for bad driver's as none of us can see 360 what's going on or react to in appropriately everytime. The last accident I had 12 years ago would have been avoided with today's current tech. I feel so much more safe and relaxed with the Eye Sight, forward and reverse collison braking, blind spot warning... Whatever you get, I recommend you don't skimp on the safety features. They could save your or someone else's life.
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NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  danlisahall

Musicdoesit: 15-20 years is a really long time to keep a car. Especially at this time of life. Auto technology is advancing so fast. And as, a 68 year old, I can say one's healthy and abilities advances kinda fast too. While driving a car till it is rust is a noble, thrifty idea, I might suggest you at least mentally prepare youself for letting go of Ol' Besty a little sooner than 15 years.

Michael's advice about safety featurers is spot on. They are not just for bad driver's as none of us can see 360 what's going on or react to in appropriately everytime. The last accident I had 12 years ago would have been avoided with today's current tech. I feel so much more safe and relaxed with the Eye Sight, forward and reverse collison braking, blind spot warning... Whatever you get, I recommend you don't skimp on the safety features. They could save your or someone else's life.
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NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  mikegrosoft

I'm in total agreement! Everything about this vehicle is a breakdown about to happen.

Driver seat comes apart at seams at 41,000 miles transmission failure 51,252 miles, AWD failure 46,000 miles, sunroof leaks because of bad design and internal parts and fries the audio system and dash module at 54,287 miles. This is the worst car I've ever owned !!! Toyota here I come.

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  LectroFuel

Toyota's safety systems do work. They didn't work for that person and you bring it up once every few weeks. I wonder why Buick doesn't have any Top Safety Picks +s. The only Top Safety Pick without a plus is the Envision. In the IIHS tests, the Envision only avoided the 12 mph collision. It only reduced the speed by 9 mph in the 25 mph autobrake test and lost a few points because of this. My Prius stopped all the way in a 40 mph autobrake when a guy ran a red light perpendicular to me in a potential T-bone crash. I was in the most sensitive autobrake setting. The RAV4 aced both IIHS autobrake tests.

Even if you don't think these systems don't work, isn't it better to have them than not? I haven't heard of many people complaining that their safety features don't work in the event of a crash. Almost all of the Tesla crashes involved drivers that were watching movies on their phones and other stupid stuff with autopilot enabled. The driver still has to be looking at the road all the time and automakers tell their customers this.

Automated safety systems really DO prevent car crashes: Technology that stops vehicles from drifting across lanes reduces the rate of accidents by 21%

Studies: Automated safety systems are preventing car crashes

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  danlisahall

Basically your looking for a mid size SUV While you don't mention a need for it, most these have 3 row seating. Thankfully, with $42K to spend, your choice won't be hampered much by budget constraints. I agree that CX-9 or Pilot would probably be the best choice of current models / models that have been on the road for several years. Neither are perfect, but they are both very good. While I don't have a lot of personal experience with most of these, my friend has a 2015 that he tows a has been very happy with.4,000 lb boat with and he has been very happy with it. Mazda also solid choice if you aren't too spooked by dealer reps. You might also want to take a look at the Kia Sorento. Kia has been turning out very well equipped, quality cars the past decade and they do have the longest warranty out there. Outback is the most compact of all, but still would meet your needs (two relatively small folks coud sleep in the back) The 3.6 L OB is rated for 2,700 lbs so it would handle your Casita nicely (Subaru forums suggest that they can handle 4000 lbs nicely). Also the Subie six seems to not have as many issues as the 2.5i that causes anxiety for some True Delta participants. I think the Subie axels are not a concern with recent models. The Outback has across the board Five Star safety ratings and if you like the idea of electronic driver aids, their Eye Sight system is one of the best.

We have a 2015 Outback 2.5i that I have used to tow a 2,000 lb boat over Cascade passes up to 4,000'. sy 60 mph but it is huffing a bit.T I live the driver aids which make driving easier & more relaxing for me. On the other hand, it makes my wife nervous and but my wife refuses to use it. To each their own! This car segment is very hot currently so there are a number of nice video review of some of your potential candidates such as this one: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_niEPR-bas) . If you are willing to take a chance on a new model, certainly look at the Atlas. Also, as you mentioned, Subaru will be releasing its new Ascent this summer which sounds like it could be a winner -- if you can wait 6 months. These new rigs are all immensely complex and you won't have to look too hard to find complaints on any of them! Since You will find that none of them are perfect so certainly consider any of the above, none of them are perfect, continue to do your diligence, test drive em all, and pick the one best suited for you and your family. Best wishes on you hunt and please let us know what you choose.

Mid-size SUV that is reliable, fun to drive, and tows
  NormT

I've had a few Buick's (Opel) since 2013 and they've always been great cars. Now the family is starting to end their leases and seeing that Buick has $13,000-15,000 off some models they are in a new Buick Lease or purchase and like them so far.


GM doesn't rely too heavily on the automatic driving functions as do not work all the time. The Tesla crashes that people have died to just stopping the car low speed like Toyota's system that don't really work.
  Dnslater

The Mazda CX-9 is probably your best bet to meet all of your requirements while also being fun to drive. CX-9 is consistantly rated the best to drive in the segment and the interior is beautifuly executed.

I would throw another option at you for consideration. The Volkswagen Atlas. It is a new release and has a 5,000 lb towing capacity with the V6 and towing package. People worry about reliability with VW but they have gotten much better. The MQB platform that these use has a good history and the V6 is tried and true. Also new VW's have a 6 year, 72,000 mile warranty matching luxury makes and far excedding Mazda, Toyota, Honda, etc.....

Pilot is a solid choice as they are cleverly designed, but as with most recent Honda's, they are very bland..... and I am a long time Honda owner......

Mid-size SUV that is reliable, fun to drive, and tows
  musicdoesit

HI THANKS FOR THE INPUT...not use to being hre on TRUE DELTA....
WE plan on paying cash and keeping the car 15-20 years 10,000-12000 miles per year we are 55 and my wife is 61 years old.I am 6 ft she is 5 ft. we have 2 Toyota dealers nearby.well 20 miles away..The Subaru Dealer is 30...and 35 miles away ..Ford and Chevy real close.
I mentioned that we have 2 Park Avenues a 2002 165000 miles yet...and a 2000 we got rid of last year for a 2017 Chevy Impala LT at 20% + another $1650 off last year...my wife loves the Impala ..and the blind spot monitor as well as the v6....in any case....we also want to try to space the vehicles out a bit...so we do not end up replacing 2 at once...so we would consider getting outside possibility of trading out in 4 years or so when she turns 66...and then ill rack on any milage for work... so as for milage wewill soon be looking at well our last vehicles...but we will have to see how cars hold up.

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  musicdoesit

HI THANKS FOR THE INPUT...not use to being hre on TRUE DELTA....
WE plan on paying cash and keeping the car 15-20 years 10,000-12000 miles per year we are 55 and my wife is 61 years old.I am 6 ft she is 5 ft. we have 2 Toyota dealers nearby.well 20 miles away..The Subaru Dealer is 30...and 35 miles away ..Ford and Chevy real close.
I mentioned that we have 2 Park Avenues a 2002 165000 miles yet...and a 2000 we got rid of last year for a 2017 Chevy Impala LT at 20% + another $1650 off last year...my wife loves the Impala ..and the blind spot monitor as well as the v6....in any case....we also want to try to space the vehicles out a bit...so we do not end up replacing 2 at once...so we would consider getting outside possibility of trading out in 4 years or so when she turns 66...and then ill rack on any milage for work... so as for milage wewill soon be looking at well our last vehicles...but we will have to see how cars hold up.

Thanks again!!

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  danlisahall

Great recommendations as usual! Two things you didn't mention are your age / physical condition and how long you plan to keep your next car. Given your stated criteria I'd agree that the Toyota RAV4 is probably your best bet. Especially if you plan on keeping this vehicle for more than 5 years / 75,000 miles. According to Edmunds, a similarly equipped, the RAV 4 will probably cost about $1,000 less to own over 5 years due lower initial purchase cost & Toyota's recommended routine maintenance / oil change schedule (6 months 6.000 miles of Subie vs 12 months / 10,000 miles for Toyota). Still I would advise looking hard at the Outback also. It beats that RAV4 in fuel economy and crash ratings (five star frontal rating vs RAV4's 4 four star). I suggest that you may find it more comfortable but that is really a personal issue that can only be sorted out by a test drive of a half hour to an hour in each. Outback's potential Achilles Heel is reliability issues, especially as you approach 100,000 miles. Interestingly, despite a strong consensus that Toyota is more reliable, Toyota owner loyalty is historically lower than Subaru (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/experian-automotive-vehicle-loyalty-rates-rank-high-as-consumers-show-the-love-300199092.html ) Also the Outback has the highest loyalty rating for a "nonluxury midsize CUV" (Automotive News, Jan 16, 2018). So Subaru definitely is getting the overall package right.

In summary, both are excellent cars. Your choice should be based on what feels best to you, your finances, and how many miles you plan to drive you next car. Best wishes in finding your idea car, please let us know what you end up with.

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  LectroFuel

No problem. Good luck with your car search! I suggest driving a 2017 Mazda6 because that will be the closest car to a sports sedan while still staying reliable and cheap to maintain. Since the 2018 is getting a refresh, the 2017 will have some aggressive deals and now is the perfect time to buy a 2017. The 2018 Mazda6 will be a better car with a turbocharged engine and a slightly nicer interior, but the deals on the 2017 are tempting. The 2018 Mazda6 won't be available for another month or two.

Should I Repair or Sell?
  LectroFuel

J.D. Power is not an honest source. Automakers pay J.D. Power if they want to advertise their awards (like Chevy) and JDP gives the automaker a higher spot. Also, a piece of trim coming loose is just as severe as a blown engine according to them. They don't give out specific problem areas. I feel like Buick deserves the spot it got, but almost all the other brands are out of place. There is not really a trend with JDP's ratings as there is with Consumer Reports.

This just came out yesterday:J.D. Power dependability survey is out, but you shouldn't depend on it

I'm not saying that CR is perfect either, but at least you have another option with CR besides looking at the overall reliability score. CR and TrueDelta give specific problem areas so you can decide if an infotainment glitch is a deal breaker. An infotainment glitch on JDP is the same thing as a broken transmission or blown engine. Neither CR or TrueDelta accepts bribes like JDP does.

Rear cross traffic alert is only on the $40k Essence trim and above. Forward collision alert is only on the $43k Premium trim. It doesn't even brake for you; for it to auto brake, you need to get the $47,000(!) MSRP Premium II trim!! It's 2018 Buick! The $15k Yaris has automatic braking standard (and it works), but the $43k Envision Premium doesn't. Paying $12k above the base trim just to get Adaptive Cruise control, auto brake, and surround vision is hilarious. You can get a birds eye camera on the RAV4 SE or Limited. All the safety features the Envision has on the top trim are standard on the $24k RAV4 LE.

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..
  Dnslater

I don't have a lot to add here, but it sounds like the Forester is the best bet. The only other option is to get another VW Sportwagen and hope it does not have the same issue. Is this a known issue, or a fluke with yours?

Was going to pull a Norm and recommend the Regal TourX, but no manual and way out of your budget.

Everyday car to take mountain biking
  LectroFuel

The Subaru CVT transmissions and engines are not known for being the most reliable. The only reliable CVTs I've heard of are Honda's and Toyota's. Oil consumption used to cause a lot of head gasket failures in Subarus.

Some comments on what you suggested:

The 2018 Toyota RAV4 is a great SUV. It provides a cushy ride and a quiet interior. All safety features are standard in every trim and they work well. It is a very easy SUV to live with. The infotainment system is extremely easy to use and outward visibility is good, too. It is just kinda boring and the handling is not as good as a Mazda CX-5, but better than the other cars on this list. For 2017/2018, they added more sound deadening and a softer suspension. It fits all of your priorities perfectly. It is the most reliable small SUV and one of the most reliable cars on the road. It's getting long in the tooth, but it is still the better choice compared to the others on your list.

The 2018 Ford Edge is a decent SUV. It isn't the most reliable and owner satisfaction isn't too high. Safety features aren't even available until you get to the most expensive trims, which would be a total deal breaker for me. The RAV4 has these standard on the bottom trim and they are more advanced than the Ford's system. Visibility is not as easy as the Subarus or Toyota.

I rented a 2017 Escape SE with the 2.0T for a few days and I didn't like it at all. The chassis and insulation felt kind of substantial, but it feels super top-heavy like the SUV will flip with a slight turn. I've never felt this in a car before and was puzzled. It only had 3k miles. The interior was horrendous compared to its competitors. Poor visibility out of the front and rear windshield plus flimsy fit and finish. The 2.0T engine was nice, but there is a lot of torque steer and made the power overkill. The Escape is also unreliable according to TrueDelta, Consumer Reports, and Carcomplaints.com! Thumbs down; it needs a big redesign. Like the Edge, the Escape is not available with safety features on the middle or lower trims. It is a popular car, but it doesn't mean it is good. Much of those sales go to rental fleets.

The Equinox isn't even available with adaptive cruise control. Otherwise, it is OK. It is bigger than the other SUVs and is slow with the base engine. It isn't well-equipped with safety features on the lower trims. The Equinox has not had a good reliable history like the RAV4/CR-V has (CR-V before 2017). If it weren't for the fact that safety features are not too accessible in your budget, this could be a good car for you. These safety features are life-saving, so it isn't good to skimp on them.

The Outback is great if you need AWD and a lot of space. It gives you a smooth ride and handling that is kind of sloppy. It is definitely tuned for comfort and not handling. It has a CVT and a boxer engine, which is not a good combination for driving enjoyment or reliability. Reliability isn't bad, but it isn't Toyota or Honda status yet. The Subaru infotainment system I've heard is junk. It is surprisingly expensive, but I've heard it is a very good wagon.

Pretty much everything is great about the new Honda CR-V, except the reliability on TrueDelta is not good. It is the leader in the small SUV segment right now aside from reliability. Safety features can be found on most trims.

Please tell us what you decide on! Good luck

NEW SUV which one? RAVE 4 xlt.. EDGE xle..Escape xle...Equinox LT...Outback premium..Crossteck limited..Mazda 5..We thought the New Honda was loud..