Model Year | 2016 | 2012 | |
Model | Chevrolet Tahoe / Suburban | Dodge Journey | |
Engine | 5.3L V8 OHV-2v 355 hp@5600 383 lb-ft@4100 |
3.6L V6 DOHC-4v 283 hp@6350 260 lb-ft@4400 |
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Transmission | 6-speed shiftable automatic | 6-speed shiftable automatic | |
Drivetrain | RWD | AWD | |
Body | 4dr SUV | 4dr SUV | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 116.0 in | 113.8 in | 2.2 in |
Length | 204.0 in | 192.4 in | 11.6 in |
Width | 80.5 in | 72.2 in | 8.3 in |
Height | 74.4 in | 66.6 in | 7.8 in |
Curb Weight | 5466 lb. | 4195 lb. | 1271 lb. |
Fuel Capacity | 26.0 gal. | 20.5 gal. | 5.5 gal. |
Headroom, Row 1 | 42.8 in | 40.8 in | 2 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 64.8 in | 57.5 in | 7.3 in |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 60.8 in | 53.8 in | 7 in |
Legroom, Row 1 | 45.3 in | 40.8 in | 4.5 in |
Headroom, Row 2 | 38.7 in | 39.9 in | -1.2 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 65.1 in | 56.9 in | 8.2 in |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 60.3 in | 54.4 in | 5.9 in |
Legroom, Row 2 | 39.0 in | 33.6 in | 5.4 in |
Headroom, Row 3 | 38.1 in | 37.7 in | 0.4 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 3 | 62.6 in | 43.5 in | 19.1 in |
Hip Room, Row 3 | 49.3 in | 40.0 in | 9.3 in |
Legroom, Row 3 | 24.8 in | 23.4 in | 1.4 in |
Total Legroom | 109.1 in (over 3 rows) | 97.8 in (over 3 rows) | 11.3 in |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 15.3 ft3 | 10.7 ft3 | 4.6 ft3 |
Cargo Volume, Behind R2 | 51.6 ft3 | 37.0 ft3 | 14.6 ft3 |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 94.7 ft3 | 67.6 ft3 | 27.1 ft3 |
2016 Chevrolet Tahoe / Suburban Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2015 | Some (perhaps more than some) people are drawn to large SUVs because they like to feel like the king of the road when behind the wheel. Others need a lot of space while driving, or at least feel they do. Few vehicles have more front seat room than the new Tahoe. With an inch-and-a-half less shoulder room, the Ford's front-row dimensions aren't quite as generous, and its taller, shifter-festooned console is more intrusive. The front seats are comfortable in both. The Expedition's are a little wider and softer, and they're upholstered with especially rich hides in the King Ranch and Platinum (vs. the most recently tested and photographed Limited). Whether this is preferable is a matter of taste. see full Chevrolet Tahoe / Suburban review |
2016 Chevrolet Tahoe / Suburban Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Comment | |
Both the Tahoe and Expedition have roomy, comfortable second-row seats, with a slight edge to the higher cushions in the Chevrolet. Bonus points to the Tahoe for automatic rear climate controls (they're manual in the Expedition). Move to the third-row seat, and you'll wonder why, despite redesigns for 2007 and 2015, General Motors has stubbornly refused to follow Ford's 2003 switch from a solid rear axle to an independent rear suspension. With a solid axle, the rear floor must be high to permit the rear differential to travel up and down when a wheel hits a bump. Consequently, the Tahoe's third row seat must be very thinly constructed and mounted very close to the floor. Even pre-teen children won't be comfortable in it. In sharp contrast, the Expedition's third-row seat is higher off the floor than its second-row seat, much less the ridiculously low third row in the Tahoe, and is--surprise--considerably more comfortable as a result. The Suburban's third-row seat is roomier than the Tahoe's but still far inferior to the Expedition's. see full Chevrolet Tahoe / Suburban review |
None of our members have yet commented on the seat room and comfort of the 2016 Chevrolet Tahoe / Suburban.
2012 Dodge Journey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2013 | Overly firm, insufficiently contoured front seats seem to be popping up everywhere lately, even in the formerly fluffy Toyota Avalon. (Blame the influence of the Germans.) The Dodge Journey’s front buckets provide a refreshing alternative, with a rare combination of cushiness and support. The armrests and door pulls are also well-padded. The driver-side lumbar powers up and down as well as in and out. The headrests even adjust fore-aft, a rarity among sub-luxury cars these days. If only the driver seat also included power recline... see full Dodge Journey review |
2012 Dodge Journey Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Comment | |
As mentioned earlier, Chrysler really dropped the ball when it packaged the Journey. The second-row seat is a comfortable height off the floor, yet headroom is plentiful even by crossover standards. But that’s the beginning and end of the back seat’s virtues. The optional third-row seat is kids-only (unless the adults in question aren’t much larger than kids). Though less than an inch longer, and riding on a wheelbase that’s 3.6 inches shorter, the new 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe has eight more inches of legroom in each of the rear rows—a huge difference. Adults can fit in the Journey’s second row if it’s slide back at least half way along its travel, but they can’t stretch out like they can in the Santa Fe. Or in many compact crossovers, for that matter. Poor packaging also makes for a fairly high load floor and (as mentioned above) less cargo volume than in other similarly-dimensioned crossovers. see full Dodge Journey review |
None of our members have yet commented on the seat room and comfort of the 2012 Dodge Journey.