Honda Odyssey (2013) vs. Mini Hardtop (2008) Specs

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2013 Honda Odyssey and 2008 Mini Hardtop Specifications

Model Year	2013	2008
Model	Honda Odyssey	Mini Hardtop
Engine	3.5L V6 w/DoD OHC-4v 247 hp@5700 250 lb-ft@4800	turbocharged 1.6L I4 DOHC-4v 172 hp@5500 177 lb-ft@1600
Transmission	5-speed automatic	6-speed shiftable automatic
Drivetrain	FWD	FWD
Body	4dr Minivan, ext.	2dr Hatch
			Difference
Wheelbase	118.1 in	97.1 in	21 in
Length	202.9 in	145.6 in	57.3 in
Width	79.2 in	66.3 in	12.9 in
Height	68.4 in	55.4 in	13 in
Curb Weight	4337 lb.	2712 lb.	1625 lb.
Fuel Capacity	21.0 gal.	11.0 gal.	10 gal.
Headroom, Row 1	39.7 in	38.8 in	0.9 in
Shoulder Room, Row 1	64.4 in	50.3 in	14.1 in
Hip Room, Row 1	58.2 in	0.0 in	58.2 in
Legroom, Row 1	40.9 in	41.4 in	-0.5 in
Headroom, Row 2	39.5 in	37.6 in	1.9 in
Shoulder Room, Row 2	63.5 in	44.7 in	18.8 in
Hip Room, Row 2	66.1 in	0.0 in	66.1 in
Legroom, Row 2	40.9 in	29.9 in	11 in
Headroom, Row 3	38.0 in	0.0 in	38 in
Shoulder Room, Row 3	60.9 in	0.0 in	60.9 in
Hip Room, Row 3	48.4 in	0.0 in	48.4 in
Legroom, Row 3	42.4 in	0.0 in	42.4 in
Total Legroom	124.2 in (over 3 rows)	71.3 in (over 2 rows)	52.9 in
Cargo Volume, Minimum	38.4 ft³	5.7 ft³	32.7 ft³
Cargo Volume, Behind R2	93.1 ft³	5.7	87.4 ft³
Cargo Volume, Maximum	148.5 ft³	24.0 ft³	124.5 ft³

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TrueDelta Reviews the Seat Room and Comfort of the 2013 Honda Odyssey

2013 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros
Year	Comment
2014	I test a large crossover and think, "This third-row seat isn't bad." Then I drive a minivan and marvel at home much roomier it is inside than even the roomiest crossovers. This advantage increases the farther back in the vehicle you sit. Back in the third row, it's simply no contest. Among minivans, the Odyssey is the roomiest of the bunch. It's the only minivan with over 40 inches of legroom in each of its three rows. Total up the differences in the official specs, and the Toyota Sienna comes up nearly ten inches short (though the difference doesn't seem nearly so large in reality, maybe an inch or two). A Chrysler Town & Country? Over fourteen inches. A Toyota Highlander crossover has legroom specs similar to the Chrysler minivan, but its third row feels much more cramped. Moral of the story: don't trust the specs, sit in the cars yourself. In cabin breadth, the official specs have the Odyssey about equal to the Town & Country and a little narrower than the Sienna, but subjectively both the Honda and the Toyota feel broader and more open than the Chrysler. Then there's access to the rear rows. The feature most associated with minivans, their sliding side doors, are easier to open in tight parking spaces and provide a much larger opening. In terms of seat comfort, the Odyssey falls a little short of the Sienna, if only because it doesn't offer lounge chair-like legrests in the second row. Then again, for anyone over five feet tall to use these in the Toyota the second row seat must be slid back so far as to render the third row unusable. Either minivan has more comfortable second-row seats than most crossovers, including the Highlander, and third-row comfort is simply no contest. The Chrysler's second row seats aren't as comfortable, as they are more thinly constructed to enable them to fold beneath the floor. The Odyssey, Sienna, and Highlander can each be equipped to carry eight passengers (though the lounge seats in the Sienna eliminate one spot, and the three in the third row of the Highlander best have short legs). The Chrysler minivans can only seat seven. see full Honda Odyssey review

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What Our Members Are Saying about the Seat Room and Comfort of the 2008 Mini Hardtop

2008 Mini Hardtop Seat Room and Comfort: Pros
Year	Body/Powertrain	Comment
2009	2dr Hatch 118-horsepower 1.6L I4 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD	nevr a backache, I am a six footer that arrives refreshed and never feel cramped. see full Mini Hardtop review
2009	2dr Hatch 118-horsepower 1.6L I4 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD	heated seats, great driving position, great visability see full Mini Hardtop review

2008 Mini Hardtop Seat Room and Comfort: Cons
Year	Body/Powertrain	Comment
2009	2dr Hatch turbocharged 172hp 1.6L I4 6-speed manual FWD	I drove a John Cooperworks MINI and I found the front seat to be incredibly flat and unsupportive. It was the complete opposite of the GTI seats, and a big part of why I purchased the GTI instead see full Mini Hardtop review
2009	2dr Hatch turbocharged 172hp 1.6L I4 6-speed manual FWD	There is no room for anyone other than a child see full Mini Hardtop review
2009	2dr Hatch turbocharged 172hp 1.6L I4 6-speed manual FWD	Smallish seats made the front feel kinda cheap. The middle armrest was also a very hard plastic, but the door was slightly softer plastic. see full Mini Hardtop review
2009	2dr Hatch turbocharged 172hp 1.6L I4 6-speed manual FWD	Despite being a hatchback, not a lot of headroom in the back, almost as same as the Mustang. Seats were more upright and headrest should have been integrated into seatbacks; rather, it was mostly a nuisance. see full Mini Hardtop review
2008	2dr Hatch turbocharged 172hp 1.6L I4 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD	too small for adults see full Mini Hardtop review
2008	2dr Hatch 118-horsepower 1.6L I4 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD	The roof line is so low that tall people do not fit. When I tested the car my head was touching the roofliner. see full Mini Hardtop review
2007	2dr Hatch turbocharged 172hp 1.6L I4 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD	Its small, but not as small inside as you might think. see full Mini Hardtop review

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