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Subaru Forester and Hyundai Genesis Lemon Odds and Nada Odds for the Year Ending June 30, 2018

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Year Make/Model Nada Odds per 100 Cars Lemon Odds per 100 Cars    
82 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 15800 miles driven2017 Subaru Forester
[?] see reported repairs
  82 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 15800 miles driven
41 vehicles, 11.2 months per vehicle, 28000 miles driven2016 Subaru Forester
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  41 vehicles, 11.2 months per vehicle, 28000 miles driven
60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.2015		 Hyundai Genesis
[?] see reported repairs
  60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.
105 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 43500 miles driven2015 Subaru Forester
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  105 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 43500 miles driven
68 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 56000 miles driven

Redesigned.2014		 Subaru Forester
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  68 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 56000 miles driven

Redesigned.
39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.2012		 Hyundai Genesis
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  39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.
37 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 87200 miles driven2010 Subaru Forester
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  37 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 87200 miles driven
26 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 107800 miles driven

Redesigned for this model year.2009		 Subaru Forester Join or sign in to view   see reported repairs
  26 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 107800 miles driven

Redesigned for this model year.

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Subaru Forester vs. Hyundai Genesis Lemon Odds and Nada Odds

Other sources of Subaru Forester and Hyundai Genesis reliability data provide only averages, which can conceal as much as they reveal. So we also report the percentage of Subaru Foresters and Hyundai Genesiss with no repairs at all in the past year and the percentage of Subaru Foresters and Hyundai Genesiss that are lemons (required three or more repair trips in the past year). These figures might surprise you.

These stats are promptly updated four times a year, to closely track Subaru Forester and Hyundai Genesis lemon odds as the cars age. Others can be over a year behind. Only TrueDelta tells you how reliable the Subaru Forester and Hyundai Genesis have been recently.

To see how frequently Subaru Forester and Hyundai Genesis problems occur, check out our car reliability stats.

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Subaru Forester

Subaru Forester Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr SUV 170-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed shiftable automatic AWD		 Well known reliability. Their cars last a long time. see full Subaru Forester review
2010 4dr SUV 170-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed shiftable automatic AWD		 The all wheel drive go in all weather conditions reputation. see full Subaru Forester review
2009 4dr SUV 170-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed shiftable automatic AWD		 Known for making good cars. see full Subaru Forester review
2009 4dr SUV turbocharged 224hp 2.5L H4
4-speed shiftable automatic AWD		 Rugged, reliable, green--truly seems a brand that inspires loyalty and gives every reason to repeat as a customer see full Subaru Forester review
2007 4dr SUV 173-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed automatic AWD		 Fine. It should be designated the official state car of New Hampshire! see full Subaru Forester review
2007 4dr SUV 173-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed automatic AWD		 local dealer is first or second in Northeast every year; other owners have generally positive comments; inmage says sensible, but reliable see full Subaru Forester review
2006 4dr SUV 173-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed automatic AWD		 Automaker personally inspects everycar throughout production. Entire car line-up has highest safety ratings compared to others. see full Subaru Forester review
2004 4dr SUV turbocharged 210hp 2.5L I4
4-speed automatic AWD		 Subaru AWD is great. see full Subaru Forester review
2004 4dr SUV 165-horsepower 2.5L H4
5-speed manual AWD		 I have numerous friends with Subarus, all of them have had amazing great reliability with few, if any problems. see full Subaru Forester review
2003 4dr SUV 165-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed automatic AWD		 As noted above, stellar reputation among owners. reputation for being just a little different. see full Subaru Forester review
Subaru Forester Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr SUV turbocharged 224hp 2.5L H4
4-speed shiftable automatic AWD		 Subaru is rare on France and Belgium raods. Not a lot of dealers see full Subaru Forester review
 

TrueDelta Reviews the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearComment
2009 Objectively, the brand shouldn't matter. But many potential buyers won't even consider the Genesis because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai itself has been forced to accept this, and with the 2017s (available starting in June or July) will make Genesis a separate brand. With this change, the Genesis sedan will become the Genesis G80. The Genesis badge still won't have the prestige of an Audi's four rings, much less a BMW roundel or Mercedes-Benz star, but it should prove less of a deal-killer. There still won't be separate Genesis dealerships, so the showroom ambiance and level of service still won't be those of a full luxury brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
 

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2012 4dr Sedan 333-horsepower 3.8L V6
8-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Our Austin area Hyundai dealership is not going convince anyone that they deal in luxury vehicles. While the dealership displays are comfortable and convenient, they are about a decade behind true luxury settings. And the service areas? Egads. Imagine a cross between urban Sears auto service and Walmart. Their service reps are a mixed bag: some quite professional and helpful, other not so much. I strongly suggest they take their service reps and go visit a Lexus dealer or at least an Acura dealer for a field trip. While they're at it, they should just steal some blueprints for design ideas. Hyundai vehicles are better than too many of the showrooms from which they are are sold. I liked the very straightforward sales process, and would willing see full Hyundai Genesis review
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I wanted to be one of the people to form the bandwagon, not jump on it later. In the early 1990s, Toyota created a serious luxury competitor, and is now one of the top 3 luxury mfrs. Hyundai is poised to out-Lexus, Lexus, and I want to be part of that. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 The Genesis has had excellent reports from ALL sources. Car of the year etc. see full Hyundai Genesis review
Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I dislike that some people still consider Hyundai a "cheap" Korean import with poor quality and reliability. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Not much image cachet. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai is not yet an established luxury/presige brand, though this played almost no part in my decision to buy. The car itself is very, very impressive, and the service I receive at my Hyundai dealer is quite good. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai still has a stigma of because a unreliable, cheap brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai does not have the pedigree of Mercedes and BMW. see full Hyundai Genesis review