Model Year | 2017 | 2018 | |
Model | Honda Civic | Lexus LS | |
Engine | turbocharged 2.0L I4 DOHC-4v 228 kW@6500 400 Nm@2500 |
turbocharged 3.5L V6 DOHC-4v 310 kW@6000 599 Nm@1600 |
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Transmission | 6-speed manual | 10-speed shiftable automatic | |
Drivetrain | FWD | RWD | |
Body | 4dr Sedan | 4dr Sedan, ext. | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 2,700 mm | 3,124 mm | -1 mm |
Length | 4,630 mm | 5,235 mm | -1 mm |
Width | 1,798 mm | 1,900 mm | 0 mm |
Height | 1,415 mm | 1,461 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,429 kg | 2,135 kg | -1 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 47 L | 82 L | -35 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 998 mm | 947 mm | 51 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,448 mm | 1,494 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 1,364 mm | 1,410 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,074 mm | 1,041 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 942 mm | 947 mm | -5 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,397 mm | 1,433 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 1,201 mm | 1,400 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 950 mm | 988 mm | -38 mm |
Total Legroom | 2,024 mm (over 2 rows) | 2,029 mm (over 2 rows) | 0 mm |
Cargo Volume | 428 L | 481 L | -53 L |
2017 Honda Civic Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2016 | From the driver seat the new Honda Civic feels especially roomy. Appearances aren't deceiving: the car has an inch or two more front shoulder room than most other small sedans, and about as much as you'll find in some midsize sedans. On paper the Mazda3 has as much shoulder room, but it feels narrower. Some competitors feel much narrower. In comparison, the new Civic's driving position seems like that of a midsize car. In terms of specs, the Civic's rear seat is also roomier than most others. Owing to a somewhat low cushion and scant toe room beneath the front seats, though, I found it less comfortable than some others. The Elantra isn't among these others. Its rear seat cushion is also too close to the floor to provide thigh support, plus its rear seat back is reclined too much for my taste. Even so, rear headroom is limited. The new Civic's trunk can also hold more than the class average. see full Honda Civic review |
2017 Honda Civic Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Comment | |
Unlike in the Hyundai and Mazda, in the new Honda Civic the lumbar bulge cannot be adjusted. I didn't mind the Touring's front seats. Perhaps my spine was unusually flexible the day I drove it. Or perhaps the cloth seats are slightly different. Whatever the reason, for my upright build the Civic EX's lumbar bulge and headrest both jut too far forward. If your body shape differs from mine, your impressions of the seats might as well. But for years I've heard more complaints about Honda's seats than others. Try extensively before you buy. see full Honda Civic review |
None of our members have yet commented on the seat room and comfort of the 2017 Honda Civic.
2018 Lexus LS Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2019 | The original Lexus LS showed the world how quiet and smooth-riding a luxury sedan could be. As long as you avoid the F Sport variant, the fifth-generation LS remains among the quietest, smoothest-riding cars you can buy. But the far less expensive ES is nearly as smooth and as quiet; as are many other current sedans, including some from Hyundai and Kia. So what sets the latest Lexus LS apart and justifies its lofty price? Perhaps most of all, its seats. I imagine even the 16-way adjustable heated-and-ventilated front seats in an unoptioned $76,475 LS (add $3,220 for AWD and/or $4,510 for the hybrid) are quite comfortable on long drives and properly supportive if the road gets twisty. But it's hard to imagine anyone getting this car and not opting for at least the Interior Upgrade Package, which with additional options it requires bumps the bottom line to $82,615. This package upgrades the upholstery to quilted, soft semi-aniline leather, upgrades the headliner to synthetic suede, adds heat to the rear seat, and increases the number of driver-seat adjustments to 28. Perhaps most importantly, this package adds a highly customizable shiatsu-like massage feature to the driver seat that's capable of providing the most vigorous rubdown I've ever experienced at 70 mph. My sister judged it "better than the chairs at the salon." But supreme comfort on long drives need not be restricted to the driver. Opt for the Luxury Package, which bumps the price of a rear-drive LS 500 (no h) to $93,475, and the front passenger gets the same 28-way massage seat as the driver, while the rear passengers get heated-and-ventilated 18-way adjustable seats and their own climate controls. Desire massage for the rear seat passengers? Then add another $8,000 for the Executive Package, which also includes a recliner with legrest for the right rear spot and "butterfly" headrests for all four outboard seats. As much as the LS isn't personally my sort of car, there's something to be said for cruising mile after mile while the driver and three passengers receive thorough massages from exceptionally comfortable climate-controlled seats. My elderly parents, with many aches and pains between them, loved these seats. Weaknesses? Even though the new LS is offered in only one length, and is longer than the extended wheelbase version of the previous LS, it does not offer as much rear legroom as the Mercedes-Benz S-Class or BMW 7 Series. The fancy executive recliner can only be used if no one is in the front passenger seat, as the latter must be compacted against the instrument panel. Blame the new car's racier "coupe-like" styling and proportions. (The new LS shares its underpinnings with the LC coupe.) see full Lexus LS review |
None of our members have yet commented on the seat room and comfort of the 2018 Lexus LS.