Model Year | 2012 | 2019 | |
Model | Honda Odyssey | Lexus ES | |
Engine | |||
Transmission | |||
Drivetrain | |||
Body | 4dr Minivan, ext. | 4dr Sedan | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 3,000 mm | 2,870 mm | 1 mm |
Length | 5,154 mm | 4,976 mm | 1 mm |
Width | 2,012 mm | 1,864 mm | 1 mm |
Height | 1,737 mm | 1,445 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,967 kg | 1,655 kg | 0 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 79 L | 60 L | 19 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 1,008 mm | 953 mm | -952 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,636 mm | 1,420 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 1,478 mm | 1,397 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,039 mm | 1,077 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 1,003 mm | 960 mm | -959 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,613 mm | 1,379 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 1,679 mm | 1,379 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 1,039 mm | 996 mm | -995 mm |
Headroom, Row 3 | 965 mm | 0 mm | 965 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 3 | 1,547 mm | 0 mm | 1 mm |
Hip Room, Row 3 | 1,229 mm | 0 mm | 1 mm |
Legroom, Row 3 | 1,077 mm | 0 mm | 1 mm |
Total Legroom | 3,155 mm (over 3 rows) | 2,073 mm (over 2 rows) | 1 mm |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 1,087 L | 473 L | -472 L |
Cargo Volume, Behind R2 | 2,636 L | 16.7 | -14.7 L |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 4,205 L | 16.7 | -12.7 L |
2012 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The Odyssey has the best seat setup of any minivan on the market, by a large margin. Standard 8th seat, which is usable, easy to flip the 3rd row, adjustable 2nd row without floor rails to collect debris from kiddos. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 6-speed automatic FWD |
Nice and roomy 2nd row, we really like the Wide mode seating. Very nice 3rd row usable by adults. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2012 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The seats are still more thinly padded than the competition - and the third row seat angle is merely adequate. My mother in law noted that our Ody 3rd row is really like a standard seat - not "3rd class" - but the Pacifica made her feel like she was "stuck in the back". see full Honda Odyssey review |
2019 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2019 | From 2014 on Mazdas have had their front wheels located farther from the passenger compartment than the typical front-wheel-drive car. This opens up space for larger exhaust manifolds behind the engine, for improved performance and efficiency. It also gives the cars more attractive, rear-wheel-drive-like proportions. But it has a price: reduced rear legroom. The Lexus ES provides rear seat passengers with much more room to stretch their legs. Sitting in the rear seat, I can barely reach the front seatback with an outstretched arm. While the first few generations of the Lexus ES were related to the Toyota Camry, the 2013 and 2019 are related to the larger Toyota Avalon. This said, I should also note that the rear seat cushion is the Lexus is mounted somehwat low to the floor, so rear seat passengers also have more need to stretch out if they desire under-thigh support. The new Lexus ES is the sleekest and sportiest to date, and sporty rear roof line's also have a price. see full Lexus ES review |
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