Model Year | 2020 | 2009 | |
Model | Lexus ES | Mazda RX-8 | |
Engine | 3.5L V6 DOHC-4v 302 hp@6600 267 lb-ft@4700 |
1.3L R2 OHV-2v 232 hp@8500 159 lb-ft@5500 |
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Transmission | 8-speed shiftable automatic | 6-speed manual | |
Drivetrain | FWD | RWD | |
Body | 4dr Sedan | 4dr Coupe | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 113.0 in | 106.4 in | 6.6 in |
Length | 195.9 in | 175.6 in | 20.3 in |
Width | 73.4 in | 69.7 in | 3.7 in |
Height | 56.9 in | 52.8 in | 4.1 in |
Curb Weight | 3649 lb. | 3064 lb. | 585 lb. |
Fuel Capacity | 15.9 gal. | 15.9 gal. | 0 gal. |
Headroom, Row 1 | 37.5 in | 38.2 in | -0.7 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 55.9 in | 54.8 in | 1.1 in |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 55.0 in | 53.3 in | 1.7 in |
Legroom, Row 1 | 42.4 in | 42.7 in | -0.3 in |
Headroom, Row 2 | 37.8 in | 36.8 in | 1 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 54.3 in | 54.9 in | -0.6 in |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 54.3 in | 48.1 in | 6.2 in |
Legroom, Row 2 | 39.2 in | 32.2 in | 7 in |
Total Legroom | 81.6 in (over 2 rows) | 74.9 in (over 2 rows) | 6.7 in |
Cargo Volume | 16.7 ft3 | 7.6 ft3 | 9.1 ft3 |
2020 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2019 | From 2014 on Mazdas have had their front wheels located farther from the passenger compartment than the typical front-wheel-drive car. This opens up space for larger exhaust manifolds behind the engine, for improved performance and efficiency. It also gives the cars more attractive, rear-wheel-drive-like proportions. But it has a price: reduced rear legroom. The Lexus ES provides rear seat passengers with much more room to stretch their legs. Sitting in the rear seat, I can barely reach the front seatback with an outstretched arm. While the first few generations of the Lexus ES were related to the Toyota Camry, the 2013 and 2019 are related to the larger Toyota Avalon. This said, I should also note that the rear seat cushion is the Lexus is mounted somehwat low to the floor, so rear seat passengers also have more need to stretch out if they desire under-thigh support. The new Lexus ES is the sleekest and sportiest to date, and sporty rear roof line's also have a price. see full Lexus ES review |
None of our members have yet commented on the seat room and comfort of the 2020 Lexus ES.
2009 Mazda RX-8 Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2009 | 4dr Coupe 232-horsepower 1.3L R2 6-speed manual RWD |
Very comfortable Recaro seats, even on long drives. Larger people may not be comfortable so beware. see full Mazda RX-8 review |
2009 | 4dr Coupe 232-horsepower 1.3L R2 6-speed manual RWD |
Given the RX-8's compact dimensions, you wouldn't expect rear seat space to be a strength. But thanks to clever packaging and a subtly high roofline, there is actually space for real adults in back, provided those up front are short or move their seats up somewhat. With a pair of pickup-like rear-opening "half" rear doors, ingress and egress for rear seat passengers is a snap. For those who want a sports car but have children or need to transport a few friends occassionally, the RX-8 fits the bill nicely. see full Mazda RX-8 review |
2009 Mazda RX-8 Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2010 | 4dr Coupe 232-horsepower 1.3L R2 6-speed manual RWD |
The R3 Recaro seats had side bolsters that were a bit tight for us. I am below average in size as a male, and my wife is also very small and we found the bolsters cut into our hips far more than was comfortable. The seats are racing oriented only. see full Mazda RX-8 review |