Model Year | 2008 | 2018 | |
Model | Lexus ES | Subaru Forester | |
Engine | 3.5L V6 DOHC-4v 203 kW@6200 344 Nm@4700 |
turbocharged 2.0L H4 DOHC-4v 186 kW@5600 350 Nm@2000 |
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Transmission | 6-speed shiftable automatic | 8-speed shiftable CVT | |
Drivetrain | FWD | AWD | |
Body | 4dr Sedan | 4dr SUV | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 2,776 mm | 2,639 mm | 0 mm |
Length | 4,854 mm | 4,595 mm | 0 mm |
Width | 1,806 mm | 1,796 mm | 0 mm |
Height | 1,450 mm | 1,687 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,624 kg | 1,657 kg | 0 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 70 L | 60 L | 10 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 950 mm | 1,052 mm | 949 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,455 mm | 1,448 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 1,420 mm | 1,369 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,072 mm | 1,092 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 935 mm | 1,011 mm | 934 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,430 mm | 1,435 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 1,341 mm | 1,346 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 912 mm | 965 mm | -53 mm |
Total Legroom | 1,984 mm (over 2 rows) | 2,057 mm (over 2 rows) | -1 mm |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 416 L | 974 L | -558 L |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 14.7 | 2,115 L | 12.7 |
2008 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Similar to the front seats, super comfortable and soft. A lot of leg room with an average-sized driver + passenger up front. Rear moonroof gives off the feel of a huge ceiling. see full Lexus ES review |
2008 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
the seams in a seat should run front to rear vs. left to right this would make the seat more comfortable. the Toyota Camry leather seats are definitely more comparable... I think Lexis wanted a sportier looking seat but sacrificed comfort in doing see full Lexus ES review |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
There is simply not enough legroom and three passengers will probably feel very cramped in the back as well. see full Lexus ES review |
2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Had a ton of trouble with front seat comfort - had to trade it in after only 4 mos. Even my daughter's Sonata was more comfortable. Did everything i could to rectifiy - even had firmer cushions put into driver seat. Others have had the same issue. see full Lexus ES review |
2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Most awful front seats i have ever experienced in 40 yrs of driving. I have done everything i can to make it comfortable. Even had extra firmer padding added to the driver seat. Pain in my leg and lower back is unbearable - check forums for Lexus owners - seems to be a problem with taller men and even some women. Never ever had a problem like this in any car i have had or driven. Strange issue. see full Lexus ES review |
2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
If tall person sits in front seat, rear seat will not have a lot of legroom. Otherwise, very comfortable. Poor interior lighting in rear (front is bad, too, but slightly better). see full Lexus ES review |
2018 Subaru Forester Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2017 | 4dr SUV turbocharged 250hp 2.0L H4 8-speed shiftable CVT AWD |
- Terrible front seat support - The cushions are too short - It's not noticeable on a test drive right away. I would not have bought the car! Test drive extensively! - Surfaces where your elbows would lay are too hard - I purchased foam pads to make it feel better. - Tall drivers like myself will struggle with the telescoping wheel's short extension range. - It is hard to get into a fully comfortable driving position. The memory seats in the XT help somewhat by retaining your seat settings if moved. - Front seat cushions are too short - Yes I said this twice - Front seat cushions are too short - Yes I said this THREE times! Subaru are you listening? The front seat cushions are WAY TOO SHORT! see full Subaru Forester review |