Model Year | 2013 | 2020 | |
Model | Subaru Forester | Lexus ES | |
Engine | turbocharged 2.5L H4 DOHC-4v 167 kW@5600 306 Nm@3600 |
3.5L V6 DOHC-4v 225 kW@6600 362 Nm@4700 |
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Transmission | 4-speed shiftable automatic | 8-speed shiftable automatic | |
Drivetrain | AWD | FWD | |
Body | 4dr SUV | 4dr Sedan | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 2,616 mm | 2,870 mm | 0 mm |
Length | 4,305 mm | 4,976 mm | 0 mm |
Width | 1,781 mm | 1,864 mm | 0 mm |
Height | 1,674 mm | 1,445 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,560 kg | 1,655 kg | 0 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 64 L | 60 L | 4 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 1,057 mm | 953 mm | -952 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,425 mm | 1,420 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 0 mm | 1,397 mm | -1 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,095 mm | 1,077 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 1,016 mm | 960 mm | -959 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,412 mm | 1,379 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 0 mm | 1,379 mm | -1 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 965 mm | 996 mm | -31 mm |
Total Legroom | 2,060 mm (over 2 rows) | 2,073 mm (over 2 rows) | 0 mm |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 949 L | 473 L | 476 L |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 1,934 L | 16.7 | -15.7 L |
2013 Subaru Forester Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2014 | Beyond visibility, people buy crossovers to get more space for people and cargo. As in previous Subaru Foresters, the 2014's ceiling is cathedral-high. I could have worn a top hat inside. If you're very tall, and have been seeking a compact vehicle in which you'll easily fit, you've found one. If, on the other hand, you've been seeking expansive elbow room, the Honda CR-V has more of it. And legroom? A combined (first and second row) figure of 81 inches tops every other compact SUV, including the otherwise segment-leading Honda (79.6 inches) and Toyota RAV-4 (79.8 inches). The Chevrolet Equinox offers another tenth of an inch, but with a 188-inch length (vs. the Forester's 181) and 4,083-pound curb weight (vs. the Forester 2.5i's 3,366) it's not truly compact. Subaru has worked no such miracles with shoulder room. At 56.5 inches, the Forester's is typical of the compact crossover class. Add in a small driveline hump (absent in the Honda) and three adults won't happily share the rear seat for long. But how many car owners put three adult-sized people in the second row for long, anyway? Measurements don't tell the entire story. The Honda's rear seat cushion is too low to the floor to provide adults with thigh support, and its rear seatback can be reclined to only two nearly identical positions. In constrast, the Forester's passengers enjoy a comfortably high rear seat that reclines through a broader range. One negative for rear seat comfort: unlike the Ford Escape (but like nearly all other compact crossovers, including the CR-V), the Forester has no rear air vents. Thanks to the tall, square rear body, cargo space is also the best in the segment, though not by as large a margin as the rear seat. Up front, there are plenty of bins in which to stash your stuff. see full Subaru Forester review |
2013 Subaru Forester Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2014 | 4dr SUV 170-horsepower 2.5L H4 CVT AWD |
Huge rear seat for the car's size see full Subaru Forester review |
2014 | 4dr SUV 170-horsepower 2.5L H4 CVT AWD |
Excellent rear seat comfort and rear seats are 60/ 40 and easy to fold flat. rear seats also have recline function which is nice ... excellent leg room see full Subaru Forester review |
2020 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2019 | From 2014 on Mazdas have had their front wheels located farther from the passenger compartment than the typical front-wheel-drive car. This opens up space for larger exhaust manifolds behind the engine, for improved performance and efficiency. It also gives the cars more attractive, rear-wheel-drive-like proportions. But it has a price: reduced rear legroom. The Lexus ES provides rear seat passengers with much more room to stretch their legs. Sitting in the rear seat, I can barely reach the front seatback with an outstretched arm. While the first few generations of the Lexus ES were related to the Toyota Camry, the 2013 and 2019 are related to the larger Toyota Avalon. This said, I should also note that the rear seat cushion is the Lexus is mounted somehwat low to the floor, so rear seat passengers also have more need to stretch out if they desire under-thigh support. The new Lexus ES is the sleekest and sportiest to date, and sporty rear roof line's also have a price. see full Lexus ES review |
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