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Saab 9-3 and Hyundai Genesis Lemon Odds and Nada Odds for the Year Ending June 30, 2018

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Year Make/Model Nada Odds per 100 Cars Lemon Odds per 100 Cars    
60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.2015		 Hyundai Genesis
[?] see reported repairs
  60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.
39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.2012		 Hyundai Genesis
[?] see reported repairs
  39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.
28 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 95500 miles driven2008 Saab 9-3 Join or sign in to view   see reported repairs
  28 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 95500 miles driven

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Saab 9-3 vs. Hyundai Genesis Lemon Odds and Nada Odds

Other sources of Saab 9-3 and Hyundai Genesis reliability data provide only averages, which can conceal as much as they reveal. So we also report the percentage of Saab 9-3s and Hyundai Genesiss with no repairs at all in the past year and the percentage of Saab 9-3s and Hyundai Genesiss that are lemons (required three or more repair trips in the past year). These figures might surprise you.

These stats are promptly updated four times a year, to closely track Saab 9-3 and Hyundai Genesis lemon odds as the cars age. Others can be over a year behind. Only TrueDelta tells you how reliable the Saab 9-3 and Hyundai Genesis have been recently.

To see how frequently Saab 9-3 and Hyundai Genesis problems occur, check out our car reliability stats.

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Saab 9-3

Saab 9-3 Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2009 4dr Sedan turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 excellent car reputation for safety see full Saab 9-3 review
2008 4dr Wagon turbocharged 180hp 1.9L I4 Diesel
6-speed manual FWD		 The history and the underdog mentality. Also the brand is unique in getting good design and performance in one package. The SAAB brand known for there engineering of new technology, and will see more of that nowadays I guess. see full Saab 9-3 review
2008 4dr Sedan turbocharged 280hp 2.8L V6
6-speed manual AWD		 Saab is different and independent, I know it was part of GM in this model year but they are still made by Swedes and have the Swedish touch. see full Saab 9-3 review
2008 4dr Wagon turbocharged 255hp 2.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 Cool, not showy or glitzy, integrity of design and reputation see full Saab 9-3 review
2008 4dr Wagon turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
6-speed manual FWD		 Only a concern when you play the 4 year new car shuffle, not feasible anymore on these cars! Again, if you're stressed out by your coworkers/neighbor's opinion of your car, a SAAB is not the best for you. Unless he/she has one? see full Saab 9-3 review
2008 4dr Wagon turbocharged 255hp 2.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 I had never known Saab until the moment I saw a black 93 stationwagon in a used car lot. I started my research, by that time Saab was already bankrupted so that Saabs are cheap to buy but expensive to own. I did my pros and cons and decided to went for it. This isa very special car, very handsomely styled and very, very cool! see full Saab 9-3 review
2006 4dr Sedan turbocharged 250hp 2.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 Great design inside and out. Reliability sems to be going up with Spyker. I purchased my 2006 with resaerch that the 2002 to 2004 were very troubled years. Bumper to bumper warranty better than BMW. see full Saab 9-3 review
2006 4dr Wagon turbocharged 150hp 1.9L I4 Diesel
6-speed manual FWD		 cool man see full Saab 9-3 review
2006 4dr Wagon turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 Saab is a unique Brand. see full Saab 9-3 review
2004 2dr Convertible turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 So far Saab has lived up to its reputation. see full Saab 9-3 review
Saab 9-3 Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2008 4dr Wagon turbocharged 180hp 1.9L I4 Diesel
6-speed manual FWD		 Some may think that this is an uncertain buy, but who cares? see full Saab 9-3 review
2007 4dr Sedan turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 Does Saab have an image? see full Saab 9-3 review
2007 4dr Wagon turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 GM ruined the brand image. Car reviewers seem to dislike Saab see full Saab 9-3 review
2003 4dr Sedan turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 Once upon a time, Saab had a good name, what happened (Read realiability, that may answer your question) see full Saab 9-3 review
2003 4dr Sedan turbocharged 210hp 2.0L I4
5-speed shiftable automatic FWD		 Reputation for costly repairs and unreliability. see full Saab 9-3 review
 

TrueDelta Reviews the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearComment
2009 Objectively, the brand shouldn't matter. But many potential buyers won't even consider the Genesis because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai itself has been forced to accept this, and with the 2017s (available starting in June or July) will make Genesis a separate brand. With this change, the Genesis sedan will become the Genesis G80. The Genesis badge still won't have the prestige of an Audi's four rings, much less a BMW roundel or Mercedes-Benz star, but it should prove less of a deal-killer. There still won't be separate Genesis dealerships, so the showroom ambiance and level of service still won't be those of a full luxury brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
 

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2012 4dr Sedan 333-horsepower 3.8L V6
8-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Our Austin area Hyundai dealership is not going convince anyone that they deal in luxury vehicles. While the dealership displays are comfortable and convenient, they are about a decade behind true luxury settings. And the service areas? Egads. Imagine a cross between urban Sears auto service and Walmart. Their service reps are a mixed bag: some quite professional and helpful, other not so much. I strongly suggest they take their service reps and go visit a Lexus dealer or at least an Acura dealer for a field trip. While they're at it, they should just steal some blueprints for design ideas. Hyundai vehicles are better than too many of the showrooms from which they are are sold. I liked the very straightforward sales process, and would willing see full Hyundai Genesis review
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I wanted to be one of the people to form the bandwagon, not jump on it later. In the early 1990s, Toyota created a serious luxury competitor, and is now one of the top 3 luxury mfrs. Hyundai is poised to out-Lexus, Lexus, and I want to be part of that. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 The Genesis has had excellent reports from ALL sources. Car of the year etc. see full Hyundai Genesis review
Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I dislike that some people still consider Hyundai a "cheap" Korean import with poor quality and reliability. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Not much image cachet. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai is not yet an established luxury/presige brand, though this played almost no part in my decision to buy. The car itself is very, very impressive, and the service I receive at my Hyundai dealer is quite good. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai still has a stigma of because a unreliable, cheap brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai does not have the pedigree of Mercedes and BMW. see full Hyundai Genesis review