Model Year | 2012 | 2020 | |
Model | Honda Odyssey | Land Rover Defender | |
Engine | 3.5L V6 w/DoD OHC-4v 247 hp@5700 250 lb-ft@4800 |
turbocharged 2.0L I4 DOHC-4v 296 hp@5500 295 lb-ft@1500 |
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Transmission | 5-speed automatic | 8-speed shiftable automatic | |
Drivetrain | FWD | AWD w/low range | |
Body | 4dr Minivan, ext. | 4dr SUV | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 118.1 in | 118.9 in | -0.8 in |
Length | 202.9 in | 197.6 in | 5.3 in |
Width | 79.2 in | 78.6 in | 0.6 in |
Height | 68.4 in | 77.5 in | -9.1 in |
Curb Weight | 4337 lb. | 4815 lb. | -478 lb. |
Fuel Capacity | 21.0 gal. | 23.8 gal. | -2.8 gal. |
Headroom, Row 1 | 39.7 in | 40.6 in | -0.9 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 64.4 in | 60.8 in | 3.6 in |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 58.2 in | 0.0 in | 58.2 in |
Legroom, Row 1 | 40.9 in | 39.1 in | 1.8 in |
Headroom, Row 2 | 39.5 in | 40.4 in | -0.9 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 63.5 in | 59.2 in | 4.3 in |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 66.1 in | 0.0 in | 66.1 in |
Legroom, Row 2 | 40.9 in | 39.1 in | 1.8 in |
Headroom, Row 3 | 38.0 in | 0.0 in | 38 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 3 | 60.9 in | 0.0 in | 60.9 in |
Hip Room, Row 3 | 48.4 in | 0.0 in | 48.4 in |
Legroom, Row 3 | 42.4 in | 0.0 in | 42.4 in |
Total Legroom | 124.2 in (over 3 rows) | 78.2 in (over 2 rows) | 46 in |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 38.4 ft3 | 34.0 ft3 | 4.4 ft3 |
Cargo Volume, Behind R2 | 93.1 ft3 | 34.0 | 59.1 ft3 |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 148.5 ft3 | 78.8 ft3 | 69.7 ft3 |
2012 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The Odyssey has the best seat setup of any minivan on the market, by a large margin. Standard 8th seat, which is usable, easy to flip the 3rd row, adjustable 2nd row without floor rails to collect debris from kiddos. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 6-speed automatic FWD |
Nice and roomy 2nd row, we really like the Wide mode seating. Very nice 3rd row usable by adults. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2012 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The seats are still more thinly padded than the competition - and the third row seat angle is merely adequate. My mother in law noted that our Ody 3rd row is really like a standard seat - not "3rd class" - but the Pacifica made her feel like she was "stuck in the back". see full Honda Odyssey review |
2020 Land Rover Defender Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Comment | |
As a two-row vehicle, the Defender provides plenty of room. But if you want to use the third-row seat (optional on the four-door), the second row folks will need to slide forward a few inches, such that both rear rows end up with marginal legroom. This shouldn't come as much of a surprise. Ignore the 197.6-inch length on the spec sheet, as ten of these inches are taken up by the external spare. Without the spare, the Land Rover 110 is merely 187.4 inches long--insufficient for three spacious rows. Even with transverse powertrains, three-row crossovers tend to be as lengthy as the Defender with the spare included. One good way to maximize space in a relatively stubby vehicle is to mount the seats high so legs angle downward rather than forward, and the Defender's second-row seat is comfortably high off the floor. The third-row seat is not. There is plenty of headroom back there, so space constraints didn't force a low seat. There must have been another reason, such as the amount of space available for the folding mechanism. You might think that the third-row seat is intended for only occasional use, but Land Rover has given it seat heaters and its own HVAC fan control. All of this said, even a tight third row is better than none at all if you need to carry seven people. And none at all is what you can get in the Wrangler, Bronco, or G-Wagen. If you only occasionally need to carry a sixth person, the Defender alone offers the option of a front center jump seat in place of the console. What's more, this option is offered in the shorter wheelbase two-door Defender as well as in the four-door. see full Land Rover Defender review |
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