Model Year | 2010 | 2020 | |
Model | Honda Odyssey | Lexus ES | |
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Drivetrain | |||
Body | 4dr Minivan, ext. | 4dr Sedan | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 118.1 in | 113.0 in | 5.1 in |
Length | 202.1 in | 195.9 in | 6.2 in |
Width | 77.1 in | 73.4 in | 3.7 in |
Height | 68.8 in | 56.9 in | 11.9 in |
Curb Weight | 4385 lb. | 3649 lb. | 736 lb. |
Fuel Capacity | 21.0 gal. | 15.9 gal. | 5.1 gal. |
Headroom, Row 1 | 40.9 in | 37.5 in | 3.4 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 63.5 in | 55.9 in | 7.6 in |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 57.0 in | 55.0 in | 2 in |
Legroom, Row 1 | 40.8 in | 42.4 in | -1.6 in |
Headroom, Row 2 | 40.0 in | 37.8 in | 2.2 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 63.1 in | 54.3 in | 8.8 in |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 64.4 in | 54.3 in | 10.1 in |
Legroom, Row 2 | 40.0 in | 39.2 in | 0.8 in |
Headroom, Row 3 | 38.4 in | 0.0 in | 38.4 in |
Shoulder Room, Row 3 | 61.2 in | 0.0 in | 61.2 in |
Hip Room, Row 3 | 48.5 in | 0.0 in | 48.5 in |
Legroom, Row 3 | 41.1 in | 0.0 in | 41.1 in |
Total Legroom | 121.9 in (over 3 rows) | 81.6 in (over 2 rows) | 40.3 in |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 38.4 ft3 | 16.7 ft3 | 21.7 ft3 |
Cargo Volume, Behind R2 | 91.1 ft3 | 16.7 | 74.4 ft3 |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 147.4 ft3 | 16.7 ft3 | 130.7 ft3 |
2010 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The Odyssey has the best seat setup of any minivan on the market, by a large margin. Standard 8th seat, which is usable, easy to flip the 3rd row, adjustable 2nd row without floor rails to collect debris from kiddos. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 6-speed automatic FWD |
Nice and roomy 2nd row, we really like the Wide mode seating. Very nice 3rd row usable by adults. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2009 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 244-horsepower 3.5L V6 5-speed automatic FWD |
Absolutely no complaints here. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2009 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 244-horsepower 3.5L V6 5-speed automatic FWD |
No complaints for the second row. Have never sat in the third row. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2010 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The seats are still more thinly padded than the competition - and the third row seat angle is merely adequate. My mother in law noted that our Ody 3rd row is really like a standard seat - not "3rd class" - but the Pacifica made her feel like she was "stuck in the back". see full Honda Odyssey review |
2010 | 0 | Just acceptable. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2010 | 0 | These seats kill both my wife and my back on long trips. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2009 | 0 | Why can't manufacturers make the passenger seat as comfortable with as many adjustments as the driver's side? see full Honda Odyssey review |
2020 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2019 | From 2014 on Mazdas have had their front wheels located farther from the passenger compartment than the typical front-wheel-drive car. This opens up space for larger exhaust manifolds behind the engine, for improved performance and efficiency. It also gives the cars more attractive, rear-wheel-drive-like proportions. But it has a price: reduced rear legroom. The Lexus ES provides rear seat passengers with much more room to stretch their legs. Sitting in the rear seat, I can barely reach the front seatback with an outstretched arm. While the first few generations of the Lexus ES were related to the Toyota Camry, the 2013 and 2019 are related to the larger Toyota Avalon. This said, I should also note that the rear seat cushion is the Lexus is mounted somehwat low to the floor, so rear seat passengers also have more need to stretch out if they desire under-thigh support. The new Lexus ES is the sleekest and sportiest to date, and sporty rear roof line's also have a price. see full Lexus ES review |
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