Model Year | 2010 | 2014 | |
Model | Honda Odyssey | Scion FR-S | |
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Transmission | |||
Drivetrain | |||
Body | 4dr Minivan, ext. | 2dr Coupe | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 3,000 mm | 2,570 mm | 1 mm |
Length | 5,133 mm | 4,234 mm | 1 mm |
Width | 1,958 mm | 1,775 mm | 0 mm |
Height | 1,748 mm | 1,285 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,989 kg | 1,251 kg | 0 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 79 L | 50 L | 29 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 1,039 mm | 942 mm | -941 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,613 mm | 1,384 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 1,448 mm | 1,349 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,036 mm | 1,064 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 1,016 mm | 889 mm | -888 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,603 mm | 1,313 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 1,636 mm | 1,151 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 1,016 mm | 759 mm | -758 mm |
Headroom, Row 3 | 975 mm | 0 mm | 975 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 3 | 1,554 mm | 0 mm | 1 mm |
Hip Room, Row 3 | 1,232 mm | 0 mm | 1 mm |
Legroom, Row 3 | 1,044 mm | 0 mm | 1 mm |
Total Legroom | 3,096 mm (over 3 rows) | 1,824 mm (over 2 rows) | 2 mm |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 1,087 L | 195 L | -194 L |
Cargo Volume, Behind R2 | 2,580 L | 6.9 | -4.9 L |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 4,174 L | 6.9 | -2.9 L |
2010 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The Odyssey has the best seat setup of any minivan on the market, by a large margin. Standard 8th seat, which is usable, easy to flip the 3rd row, adjustable 2nd row without floor rails to collect debris from kiddos. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 6-speed automatic FWD |
Nice and roomy 2nd row, we really like the Wide mode seating. Very nice 3rd row usable by adults. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2009 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 244-horsepower 3.5L V6 5-speed automatic FWD |
Absolutely no complaints here. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2009 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 244-horsepower 3.5L V6 5-speed automatic FWD |
No complaints for the second row. Have never sat in the third row. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2010 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2011 | 4dr Minivan, ext. 247-horsepower 3.5L V6 w/DoD 5-speed automatic FWD |
The seats are still more thinly padded than the competition - and the third row seat angle is merely adequate. My mother in law noted that our Ody 3rd row is really like a standard seat - not "3rd class" - but the Pacifica made her feel like she was "stuck in the back". see full Honda Odyssey review |
2010 | 0 | Just acceptable. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2010 | 0 | These seats kill both my wife and my back on long trips. see full Honda Odyssey review |
2009 | 0 | Why can't manufacturers make the passenger seat as comfortable with as many adjustments as the driver's side? see full Honda Odyssey review |
2014 Scion FR-S Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Comment | |
2013 | Unlike a Mazda Miata or Nissan 370Z, the FR-S has a rear seat. But even a driver of middling height will position the front seat just inches away from the rear seat, leaving too little room for a rear passenger's legs. It would help if there was enough space beneath the front seats for the rear passengers' feet, but there isn't. To even carry children in the back, occupants of the front seats must slide forward. The back seat will serve in a pinch, but the FR-S isn't viable for frequent use by four people. The late, lamented Mazda RX-8 was capable of carrying four adults thanks more intelligent packaging. see full Scion FR-S review |
2014 Scion FR-S Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2013 | 2dr Coupe 200-horsepower 2.0L H4 6-speed manual RWD |
Although form-fitting, the seats are incredibly comfortable, even for the big and tall crowd. The car fits like a bespoke suit. The back seat is suitable only for toddlers. see full Scion FR-S review |
2014 Scion FR-S Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2013 | 2dr Coupe 200-horsepower 2.0L H4 6-speed manual RWD |
Again, if your metric includes back seats, forget it. These are only here for insurance purposes. Seriously. see full Scion FR-S review |
2013 | 2dr Coupe 200-horsepower 2.0L H4 6-speed manual RWD |
If you are a larger person walk right by it, i'm only slightly above average (5-11, 190) and just wearing a coat can make for a tight fit. But if you do fit you can drive it for hours no problem. see full Scion FR-S review |