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Hyundai Genesis and Mazda RX-8 Lemon Odds and Nada Odds for the Year Ending June 30, 2018

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Year Make/Model Nada Odds per 100 Cars Lemon Odds per 100 Cars    
60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.2015		 Hyundai Genesis
[?] see reported repairs
  60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.
39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.2012		 Hyundai Genesis
[?] see reported repairs
  39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.

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Hyundai Genesis vs. Mazda RX-8 Lemon Odds and Nada Odds

Other sources of Hyundai Genesis and Mazda RX-8 reliability data provide only averages, which can conceal as much as they reveal. So we also report the percentage of Hyundai Genesiss and Mazda RX-8s with no repairs at all in the past year and the percentage of Hyundai Genesiss and Mazda RX-8s that are lemons (required three or more repair trips in the past year). These figures might surprise you.

These stats are promptly updated four times a year, to closely track Hyundai Genesis and Mazda RX-8 lemon odds as the cars age. Others can be over a year behind. Only TrueDelta tells you how reliable the Hyundai Genesis and Mazda RX-8 have been recently.

To see how frequently Hyundai Genesis and Mazda RX-8 problems occur, check out our car reliability stats.

TrueDelta Reviews the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearComment
2009 Objectively, the brand shouldn't matter. But many potential buyers won't even consider the Genesis because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai itself has been forced to accept this, and with the 2017s (available starting in June or July) will make Genesis a separate brand. With this change, the Genesis sedan will become the Genesis G80. The Genesis badge still won't have the prestige of an Audi's four rings, much less a BMW roundel or Mercedes-Benz star, but it should prove less of a deal-killer. There still won't be separate Genesis dealerships, so the showroom ambiance and level of service still won't be those of a full luxury brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
 

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2012 4dr Sedan 333-horsepower 3.8L V6
8-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Our Austin area Hyundai dealership is not going convince anyone that they deal in luxury vehicles. While the dealership displays are comfortable and convenient, they are about a decade behind true luxury settings. And the service areas? Egads. Imagine a cross between urban Sears auto service and Walmart. Their service reps are a mixed bag: some quite professional and helpful, other not so much. I strongly suggest they take their service reps and go visit a Lexus dealer or at least an Acura dealer for a field trip. While they're at it, they should just steal some blueprints for design ideas. Hyundai vehicles are better than too many of the showrooms from which they are are sold. I liked the very straightforward sales process, and would willing see full Hyundai Genesis review
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I wanted to be one of the people to form the bandwagon, not jump on it later. In the early 1990s, Toyota created a serious luxury competitor, and is now one of the top 3 luxury mfrs. Hyundai is poised to out-Lexus, Lexus, and I want to be part of that. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 The Genesis has had excellent reports from ALL sources. Car of the year etc. see full Hyundai Genesis review
Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I dislike that some people still consider Hyundai a "cheap" Korean import with poor quality and reliability. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Not much image cachet. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai is not yet an established luxury/presige brand, though this played almost no part in my decision to buy. The car itself is very, very impressive, and the service I receive at my Hyundai dealer is quite good. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai still has a stigma of because a unreliable, cheap brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai does not have the pedigree of Mercedes and BMW. see full Hyundai Genesis review
 

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Mazda RX-8

Mazda RX-8 Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr Coupe 232-horsepower 1.3L R2
6-speed manual RWD		 Drove a 1979 Maxda RX-7 for more than 100,000 miles -- only brand with a rotary engine! see full Mazda RX-8 review
2006 4dr Coupe 238-horsepower 1.3L R2
6-speed manual RWD		 Reliable--my last Mazda was a daily driver for 15 years. Sporty image. see full Mazda RX-8 review
2005 4dr Coupe 238-horsepower 1.3L R2
6-speed manual RWD		 the brand has a quality reputation with my car having a 100k miles warrenty. Also like mazda in general for their sporty feel/image they try to put in every car. see full Mazda RX-8 review
2004 4dr Coupe 197-horsepower 1.3L R2
4-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Mazda is fairly reliable. Not much else to say on this really. see full Mazda RX-8 review
2004 4dr Coupe 238-horsepower 1.3L R2
6-speed manual RWD		 Mazda and the RX-8 is about the driver, everything inside the car points toward the driver and the spirit of driving being fun. see full Mazda RX-8 review
Mazda RX-8 Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2004 4dr Coupe 238-horsepower 1.3L R2
6-speed manual RWD		 My personal biases show here being someone that drives almost exclusively European cars. There is nothing I hate more than under lighting and flame kits on exhausts and the RX-8 fall smack dab into that category. see full Mazda RX-8 review