Model Year | 2008 | 2022 | |
Model | Lexus ES | Acura TLX | |
Engine | 3.5L V6 DOHC-4v 272 hp@6200 254 lb-ft@4700 |
turbocharged 2.0L I4 DOHC-4v 272 hp@6500 280 lb-ft@1600 |
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Transmission | 6-speed shiftable automatic | 10-speed shiftable automatic | |
Drivetrain | FWD | FWD | |
Body | 4dr Sedan | 4dr Sedan | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 2,776 mm | 2,870 mm | 0 mm |
Length | 4,854 mm | 4,943 mm | 0 mm |
Width | 1,806 mm | 1,910 mm | 0 mm |
Height | 1,450 mm | 1,433 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,624 kg | 1,682 kg | 0 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 70 L | 60 L | 10 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 950 mm | 945 mm | 5 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,455 mm | 1,478 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 1,420 mm | 1,417 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,072 mm | 1,080 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 935 mm | 922 mm | 13 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,430 mm | 1,397 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 1,341 mm | 1,387 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 912 mm | 886 mm | 26 mm |
Total Legroom | 1,984 mm (over 2 rows) | 1,966 mm (over 2 rows) | 0 mm |
Cargo Volume | 416 L | 382 L | 34 L |
2008 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Similar to the front seats, super comfortable and soft. A lot of leg room with an average-sized driver + passenger up front. Rear moonroof gives off the feel of a huge ceiling. see full Lexus ES review |
2008 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
the seams in a seat should run front to rear vs. left to right this would make the seat more comfortable. the Toyota Camry leather seats are definitely more comparable... I think Lexis wanted a sportier looking seat but sacrificed comfort in doing see full Lexus ES review |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
There is simply not enough legroom and three passengers will probably feel very cramped in the back as well. see full Lexus ES review |
2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Had a ton of trouble with front seat comfort - had to trade it in after only 4 mos. Even my daughter's Sonata was more comfortable. Did everything i could to rectifiy - even had firmer cushions put into driver seat. Others have had the same issue. see full Lexus ES review |
2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Most awful front seats i have ever experienced in 40 yrs of driving. I have done everything i can to make it comfortable. Even had extra firmer padding added to the driver seat. Pain in my leg and lower back is unbearable - check forums for Lexus owners - seems to be a problem with taller men and even some women. Never ever had a problem like this in any car i have had or driven. Strange issue. see full Lexus ES review |
2007 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
If tall person sits in front seat, rear seat will not have a lot of legroom. Otherwise, very comfortable. Poor interior lighting in rear (front is bad, too, but slightly better). see full Lexus ES review |
2022 Acura TLX Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Comment | |
It might seem unfair to compare the Acura TLX to the Genesis G70, as the latter is considerably smaller: 194.6 vs. 184.4 inches long, 75.2 vs. 72.8 inches wide, and 56.4 vs. 55.1 inches tall. The TLX is also two-to-three-hundred pounds heavier, 3,709 vs. 3,516 pounds for the 2WD fours, 4,221 vs. 3,887 pounds for the AWD V6s. In fact, compared to the second Legend--which seemed like a fairly large car in the early 1990s--the new TLX is virtually as long, four inches wider, and an inch taller. The car that was intended to replace the TSX as well as the TL has grown to the size of the final TL, which many (including me) thought too large, and weighs about 250 pounds more. Size and weight aren't good for handling agility, performance, or fuel efficiency. So, to keep match-ups fair in these and other areas, normally I compare cars that are close in size. But, the thing is, part of the cost of the TLX's dramatically lengthened dash-to-axle is a rear seat with no more legroom than in the smaller G70. Also, despite the TLX's additional width and height, it provides only slightly more rear shoulder room and less rear headroom than the rear-drive Genesis. Adults any taller than the average man will find the TLX's rear seat a tight fit. The Kia Stinger, which is a half-foot longer than the G70 but still a few inches shorter than the TLX, provides a useful additional inch-and-a-half of legroom. Front-wheel-drive transverse powertrains were originally adopted because, when turned sideways, the engine and transmission take up much less of a car's length. By taking a conventional front-wheel-drive powertrain and merely shifting it forward nearly eight inches, while only adding half as much to the wheelbase, Acura has sacrificed this advantage, and then some.* The no-longer-closely-related Honda Accord is 2.4 inches less lengthy but has 5.3 inches more legroom--a huge difference. Add these two number up and you get...the TLX's increased dash-to-axle. The Accord also weighs 300 pounds less. Acura's been here before--with the Vigor. Okay, not quite. The Vigor's rear seat was so tight only children and small adults fit. The new TLX has about 3.5 more inches of legroom. This not only brings it even with the G70, but if you compare its shoulder and leg room to those of the best-selling 3rd TL you'll find they're surprsingly close. A coincidence? I doubt it. But some people might expect more from the new TLX given its larger exterior. * One alternative at least one manufacturer has considered: rotating a transverse powertrain 180 degrees, putting the engine behind the axle rather than ahead of it. The decreased front overhang this would enable would compensate for the increased dash-to-axle, and together they would yield even better proportions. But no one has produced a car with such a layout. The impediment for Acura or Audi: it would make AWD very difficult. see full Acura TLX review |
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