Model Year | 2009 | 2013 | |
Model | Lexus ES | Honda Odyssey | |
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Body | 4dr Sedan | 4dr Minivan, ext. | |
Difference | |||
Wheelbase | 2,776 mm | 3,000 mm | -1 mm |
Length | 4,854 mm | 5,154 mm | -1 mm |
Width | 1,806 mm | 2,012 mm | -1 mm |
Height | 1,450 mm | 1,737 mm | 0 mm |
Curb Weight | 1,624 kg | 1,967 kg | 0 kg |
Fuel Capacity | 70 L | 79 L | -9 L |
Headroom, Row 1 | 950 mm | 1,008 mm | 949 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 1 | 1,455 mm | 1,636 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 1 | 1,420 mm | 1,478 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 1 | 1,072 mm | 1,039 mm | 0 mm |
Headroom, Row 2 | 935 mm | 1,003 mm | 934 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 2 | 1,430 mm | 1,613 mm | 0 mm |
Hip Room, Row 2 | 1,341 mm | 1,679 mm | 0 mm |
Legroom, Row 2 | 912 mm | 1,039 mm | 911 mm |
Headroom, Row 3 | 0 mm | 965 mm | -965 mm |
Shoulder Room, Row 3 | 0 mm | 1,547 mm | -1 mm |
Hip Room, Row 3 | 0 mm | 1,229 mm | -1 mm |
Legroom, Row 3 | 0 mm | 1,077 mm | -1 mm |
Total Legroom | 1,984 mm (over 2 rows) | 3,155 mm (over 3 rows) | -2 mm |
Cargo Volume, Minimum | 416 L | 1,087 L | 415 L |
Cargo Volume, Behind R2 | 14.7 | 2,636 L | 12.7 |
Cargo Volume, Maximum | 14.7 | 4,205 L | 10.7 |
2009 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Similar to the front seats, super comfortable and soft. A lot of leg room with an average-sized driver + passenger up front. Rear moonroof gives off the feel of a huge ceiling. see full Lexus ES review |
2009 Lexus ES Seat Room and Comfort: Cons | ||
Year | Body/Powertrain | Comment |
2010 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
Not very supportive. Felt like a hollowed out barrel. Only support was on the outside edges. see full Lexus ES review |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
the seams in a seat should run front to rear vs. left to right this would make the seat more comfortable. the Toyota Camry leather seats are definitely more comparable... I think Lexis wanted a sportier looking seat but sacrificed comfort in doing see full Lexus ES review |
2008 | 4dr Sedan 272-horsepower 3.5L V6 6-speed shiftable automatic FWD |
There is simply not enough legroom and three passengers will probably feel very cramped in the back as well. see full Lexus ES review |
2013 Honda Odyssey Seat Room and Comfort: Pros | ||
Year | Comment | |
2014 | I test a large crossover and think, "This third-row seat isn't bad." Then I drive a minivan and marvel at home much roomier it is inside than even the roomiest crossovers. This advantage increases the farther back in the vehicle you sit. Back in the third row, it's simply no contest. Among minivans, the Odyssey is the roomiest of the bunch. It's the only minivan with over 40 inches of legroom in each of its three rows. Total up the differences in the official specs, and the Toyota Sienna comes up nearly ten inches short (though the difference doesn't seem nearly so large in reality, maybe an inch or two). A Chrysler Town & Country? Over fourteen inches. A Toyota Highlander crossover has legroom specs similar to the Chrysler minivan, but its third row feels much more cramped. Moral of the story: don't trust the specs, sit in the cars yourself. In cabin breadth, the official specs have the Odyssey about equal to the Town & Country and a little narrower than the Sienna, but subjectively both the Honda and the Toyota feel broader and more open than the Chrysler. Then there's access to the rear rows. The feature most associated with minivans, their sliding side doors, are easier to open in tight parking spaces and provide a much larger opening. In terms of seat comfort, the Odyssey falls a little short of the Sienna, if only because it doesn't offer lounge chair-like legrests in the second row. Then again, for anyone over five feet tall to use these in the Toyota the second row seat must be slid back so far as to render the third row unusable. Either minivan has more comfortable second-row seats than most crossovers, including the Highlander, and third-row comfort is simply no contest. The Chrysler's second row seats aren't as comfortable, as they are more thinly constructed to enable them to fold beneath the floor. The Odyssey, Sienna, and Highlander can each be equipped to carry eight passengers (though the lounge seats in the Sienna eliminate one spot, and the three in the third row of the Highlander best have short legs). The Chrysler minivans can only seat seven. see full Honda Odyssey review |
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