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Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Legacy Lemon Odds and Nada Odds for the Year Ending June 30, 2018

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Year Make/Model Nada Odds per 100 Cars Lemon Odds per 100 Cars    
140 vehicles, 11.4 months per vehicle, 17100 miles driven2017 Subaru Legacy
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  140 vehicles, 11.4 months per vehicle, 17100 miles driven
122 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 32100 miles driven2016 Subaru Legacy
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  122 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 32100 miles driven
60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.2015		 Hyundai Genesis
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  60 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 32800 miles driven

Redesigned. Very good so far for an all-new luxury sedan.
93 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 41300 miles driven

Redesigned. Common problems with wind noise around the front side windows and the fuel door release.2015		 Subaru Legacy
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  93 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 41300 miles driven

Redesigned. Common problems with wind noise around the front side windows and the fuel door release.
48 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 57600 miles driven2014 Subaru Legacy
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  48 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 57600 miles driven
77 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 75800 miles driven2013 Subaru Legacy
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  77 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 75800 miles driven
39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.2012		 Hyundai Genesis
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  39 vehicles, 11.3 months per vehicle, 71700 miles driven

Refresh with new engines and transmissions. While half of all reported repairs have been electrical, owners have reported a few transmission replacements. Much worse than a year ago.
58 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 79600 miles driven2012 Subaru Legacy
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  58 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 79600 miles driven
80 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 95300 miles driven2011 Subaru Legacy
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  80 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 95300 miles driven
52 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 103600 miles driven

Redesigned for this model year. Dramatic improvement in reliability compared to the previous generation.2010		 Subaru Legacy
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  52 vehicles, 11.7 months per vehicle, 103600 miles driven

Redesigned for this model year. Dramatic improvement in reliability compared to the previous generation.
37 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 124400 miles driven

Common problems with wheel bearings and CV joint boots.2008		 Subaru Legacy
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  37 vehicles, 11.6 months per vehicle, 124400 miles driven

Common problems with wheel bearings and CV joint boots.
26 vehicles, 11.8 months per vehicle, 114900 miles driven

Muliple reports of problems with head gaskets, cv joint boots, sway bar links, and wheel bearings.2006		 Subaru Legacy Join or sign in to view   see reported repairs
  26 vehicles, 11.8 months per vehicle, 114900 miles driven

Muliple reports of problems with head gaskets, cv joint boots, sway bar links, and wheel bearings.
31 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 125300 miles driven

Redesigned for this model year. Most common problems involve struts, wheel bearings, steering pump, CV joints.2005		 Subaru Legacy H4 Join or sign in to view   see reported repairs
  31 vehicles, 11.5 months per vehicle, 125300 miles driven

Redesigned for this model year. Most common problems involve struts, wheel bearings, steering pump, CV joints.

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Hyundai Genesis vs. Subaru Legacy Lemon Odds and Nada Odds

Other sources of Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Legacy reliability data provide only averages, which can conceal as much as they reveal. So we also report the percentage of Hyundai Genesiss and Subaru Legacys with no repairs at all in the past year and the percentage of Hyundai Genesiss and Subaru Legacys that are lemons (required three or more repair trips in the past year). These figures might surprise you.

These stats are promptly updated four times a year, to closely track Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Legacy lemon odds as the cars age. Others can be over a year behind. Only TrueDelta tells you how reliable the Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Legacy have been recently.

To see how frequently Hyundai Genesis and Subaru Legacy problems occur, check out our car reliability stats.

TrueDelta Reviews the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearComment
2009 Objectively, the brand shouldn't matter. But many potential buyers won't even consider the Genesis because it's a Hyundai. Hyundai itself has been forced to accept this, and with the 2017s (available starting in June or July) will make Genesis a separate brand. With this change, the Genesis sedan will become the Genesis G80. The Genesis badge still won't have the prestige of an Audi's four rings, much less a BMW roundel or Mercedes-Benz star, but it should prove less of a deal-killer. There still won't be separate Genesis dealerships, so the showroom ambiance and level of service still won't be those of a full luxury brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
 

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Hyundai Genesis

Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2012 4dr Sedan 333-horsepower 3.8L V6
8-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Our Austin area Hyundai dealership is not going convince anyone that they deal in luxury vehicles. While the dealership displays are comfortable and convenient, they are about a decade behind true luxury settings. And the service areas? Egads. Imagine a cross between urban Sears auto service and Walmart. Their service reps are a mixed bag: some quite professional and helpful, other not so much. I strongly suggest they take their service reps and go visit a Lexus dealer or at least an Acura dealer for a field trip. While they're at it, they should just steal some blueprints for design ideas. Hyundai vehicles are better than too many of the showrooms from which they are are sold. I liked the very straightforward sales process, and would willing see full Hyundai Genesis review
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I wanted to be one of the people to form the bandwagon, not jump on it later. In the early 1990s, Toyota created a serious luxury competitor, and is now one of the top 3 luxury mfrs. Hyundai is poised to out-Lexus, Lexus, and I want to be part of that. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 The Genesis has had excellent reports from ALL sources. Car of the year etc. see full Hyundai Genesis review
Hyundai Genesis Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 I dislike that some people still consider Hyundai a "cheap" Korean import with poor quality and reliability. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Not much image cachet. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai is not yet an established luxury/presige brand, though this played almost no part in my decision to buy. The car itself is very, very impressive, and the service I receive at my Hyundai dealer is quite good. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 375-horsepower 4.6L V8
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai still has a stigma of because a unreliable, cheap brand. see full Hyundai Genesis review
2009 4dr Sedan 290-horsepower 3.8L V6
6-speed shiftable automatic RWD		 Hyundai does not have the pedigree of Mercedes and BMW. see full Hyundai Genesis review
 

What Our Members Are Saying about the Brand Reputation of the Subaru Legacy

Subaru Legacy Brand Reputation: Pros
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2010 4dr Sedan 170-horsepower 2.5L H4
6-speed shiftable CVT AWD		 Subaru is a brand known for reliability see full Subaru Legacy review
2010 4dr Sedan 170-horsepower 2.5L H4
6-speed manual AWD		 Subarus are known for their reliability and longevity. They are much less common than most makes and are known for being different. see full Subaru Legacy review
2008 4dr Sedan turbocharged 243hp 2.5L H4
5-speed manual AWD		 Very reliable see full Subaru Legacy review
2006 4dr Wagon turbocharged 250hp 2.5L H4
5-speed shiftable automatic AWD		 They are made to last. You see plenty of old Subarus still going strong, especially in cold weather regions like Canada and the US north East. see full Subaru Legacy review
2005 4dr Sedan turbocharged 250hp 2.5L H4
5-speed manual AWD		 I flagged brand and image here because I like how my LGT in distinct without calling attention to itself. see full Subaru Legacy review
2005 4dr Wagon turbocharged 250hp 2.5L H4
5-speed manual AWD		 Subaru has a pretty good reputation and image...although it is a bit quircky as viewed by some. Reputation (a good one) usually has a major affect on resale value. see full Subaru Legacy review
2002 4dr Sedan 165-horsepower 2.5L H4
4-speed automatic AWD		 where I live in the country most people have Subarus and the dealer is nearby and has a good reputation. see full Subaru Legacy review
Subaru Legacy Brand Reputation: Cons
YearBody/PowertrainComment
2005 4dr Sedan turbocharged 250hp 2.5L H4
5-speed manual AWD		 I flagged brand reputation & image as a dislike too because I see so many people asking questions like ‘LGT or G35 or 3 series?.’ These are great cars, but you don’t want to buy one if you want impress people. This is a plus or minus depending on who you see full Subaru Legacy review