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i am weighing pros and cons of forester limited vs mazda cx5 grand touring.
what would you recommend.?

Need minimum of 4 seats

Will consider both new and used cars
Maximum mileage: 10000
Maximum age: 2 years

Maximum price: US $ 32000

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Response from NormT

9:47 pm August 10, 2017

At $29-35K with up to 15,000 miles the well equipped CUV is the 2016 Buick Envision Premium ll with Driver Confidence package. This is the car we recently picked up really enjoy the quiet and smooth ride. The Buick will have a longer warranty than those you listed and also features not available on those listed like vented swats, heads up display, and swiveling headlights. And the best AWD system Avila blessed at this price.

Buick Envision:

  • Ten standard air bags, including side-curtain and knee air bags
  • Safety Alert Seat is standard on Premium trims
  • Driver Confidence Package is available on Premium II and includes Adaptive Cruise Control, Surround Vision and Front Automatic Braking
  • Forward Collision Alert and Following Distance Indicator are standard on Premium trims
  • Land Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning is standard on Premium trims
  • Rear Cross Traffic Alert is standard on Premium trims
  • Side Blind Zone Alert with Lane Change Alert is standard on Essence and Premium trims
  • Standard rear-vision camera with Rear Park Assist
  • Standard safety-belt pretensioners and load-limiters

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Response from LectroFuel

1:55 am August 11, 2017

I would suggest the Mazda CX-5 over the Subaru Forester. The Mazda will likely be more reliable overtime. Also, the Mazda has a MUCH nicer interior than the Subaru. The Forester is much more utilitarian than the Mazda. The CX-5 is one of the best looking CUVs, IMO, inside and out. The Mazda has a better ride and is quieter than the Subaru. The Subaru has a good driving position and is easy to see out of, great for elderly people. The cool styling of the CX-5 means that visbility is compromised. It doesn't have as good of a driving position as the Subaru. The Subaru has a CVT, which is only good for fuel efficiency, not fun. The transmission in the Mazda is much better.

You really can't go wrong with either. It's smart to buy a fully loaded small crossover like these instead of a small luxury CUV. You get more for your money and a great, practical car. If it were my money, I'd get a Mazda CX-5. BTW, after negotiating, I think you could get a 2018 Subaru Forester 2.5i Touring under your budget.


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Response from NormT

11:27 am August 11, 2017

With the CX-5 the next thing you'll need is are hearing aids. Most complaints are about the road noise and lack of sound deadening. It must a common complaint as later models received an upgrade.

Poll reporting 160 cracked winshields.


Another issue with CX-5, and Forester too, is the regularity of cracked winshields around the rearview mirror. As manufacturers focus on weights savings and fuel economy, the cutting of corners becomes prevalent and unfortunately the safety risk is on consumer along with the cost of repair. The instalation of today's camera, radar, and laser replacement windshield is around $1,000.00 and can only be aligned by an authorized dealership. My wife leased two Subaru's before meeting me and both windshields cracked all the way across the car.

The Encore had the lowest repair frequency of 8 per 100 for 2015, 12 for CX-5, and 20 for the Forester.


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Response from LectroFuel

3:05 pm August 11, 2017

The previous CX-5 before 2017 was loud and tinny.

Consumer Reports praises the "quiet cabin" of the new 2017 CX-5.

Car and Driver writes, "At highway speeds, Mazda's efforts to silence the CX-5 with a thicker windshield and additional sound insulation have paid dividends. In our test, the sound level at 70 mph dropped from the previous model's 69-decibel reading to a luxury-car-like 65 decibels. The redesigned interior also moves the CX-5 closer to the premium brands."

Motor Trend wrote, "The previous-generation CX-5 was great on a back road, too, but it was one of the loudest crossovers in the class on the freeway. The extra sound deadening Mazda worked into the 2017 CX-5 really pays off. At freeway speeds the cabin is quiet and serene... Good suspension damping filters out road imperfections and takes care of big bumps with ease."

The 2016 CX-5 had a problem with the windshield cracking easily. There isn't any information on the new 2017 CX-5 yet. The 2017 uses a new windshield, which helps with insulating out the road noise. I would think Mazda listened to their customers' complaints about the previous gen windshield.

The windshield is not covered under warranty at least for my 2016 Prius, which is known for problems with the windshield chipping. Camera and sensor recalibration was free at the dealer, but the windshield was $560.

I'd take the 2017, not the older CX-5s because the new one is so much improved.

The 2017 Forester has had complaints about the CVT transmission jerking.


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