A (now discontinued, but many available deeply discounted) MAZDA5 is very similar to the first generation Honda Oddysey, and is comfortable, a good seat height, and FUN TO DRIVE! It will not take an 8' ladder inside, but I routinely use it as an electrician with a 6' stepladder inside and all of my junk. Easy to put on a roof rack on the factory mounts, if you want to take an 8' or larger. I have carried 27' extension ladders, and 16' stepladders on the top. If you need more room, unblolt and take out the middle or rear seats. It becomes cavernous. With good (snow) tires, it is great in snow. Also is good on gas (28-30MPG) and it is a Mazda- extremely reliable.