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Teenage son will buy my 02 crv. Want to buy another crv for me to drive. Should I do used or new?

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Teenage son will buy my 2002 CRV. Looking for relaible CRV to replace it. Open to used, but have read bad things about 2015-2016 with car vibrating. Looking for info on best model year to buy for used CRV and whether or not the current 2017 CRV has a lot of problems. Also, opinions on buying used cars in general. Are they more trouble and cost more in the long run because of needing repairs/not being reliable? Had bad experiences with used cars I bought 20-30 years ago. Also anyone have advice on buy warranties for newer used cars?

Priorities: Reliability & durability / Materials & workmanship / Fuel economy

Need minimum of 5 seats

Will consider both new and used cars
Maximum mileage: 75000
Maximum age: 10 years

Maximum price: US $ 15000

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Response from LectroFuel

2:55 pm July 17, 2017

I too have read a lot about the 2015/16 CR-V vibration caused by the CVT that I wish they never put in. I doubt it'll be a reliability problem because it's only a vibration and Honda's CVTs have proved to be very reliable for the few years they've been selling them. If you keep your car for a long time, take the 2015. The 2017 has the new turbo in all trims but the LX (bottom of the line). Turbos need to bemeticulously maintained in order for them to last which is why I think you should stick to the 2015 all trims or 2017 LX trim. Of course the 2017 is more fresh and new while the 2015/16 is sort of outdated.

The Toyota RAV4 is even more reliable than the CR-V, but the CR-V is more comfortable.

I don't see how you can get a 2015/2016 CR-V for $15k, so if you can't get those years than look at a 2013 RAV4. I know someone who just bought a 2014 RAV4 and they like it. If it were my money between the 2015/16, the 2017 CR-V LX and the 2013 RAV4, I'd go for the 2017 CR-V LX and after that I'd take the 2013 RAV4 because at least you could get an upper trim RAV4 with more bells and whistles. There is a traditional 6 speed auto in the RAV4, better reliability, and no vibration.

As for the used cars being less reliable than the new ones, this isn't always true. Good reliability research is needed to be sure. Check this Consumer Reports and TrueDelta for reliability ratings. An example of automakers that have significantly dropped in terms of reliability include Acura, Subaru, and Honda (only a couple cars, not the CR-V). Older cars like a 2002 CR-V compared to a 2017 CR-V, the 2002 will obviously almost always be less reliable because of wear and tear.

For the warranties, don't buy them for reliable cars like the CR-V and RAV4. It's a huge waste of money. Save the extended warranties for the Germans, Chryslers, Fords, and GM cars.

I'm a Honda and Toyota fan, but over all of these cars, I'd take the 2017 Mazda CX-5 (just as reliable, if not more so than the Honda and Toyota), but that's just me. Test drive all of them to see which one fits best.


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Response from NormT

8:34 am July 18, 2017

You cannot buy a new CR-V for much less than $22,000 today. The Rav4 is right behind it at $21,000 on cars.com. The new Chevrolet Equinox is thousands less at $17,000 from Chevrolet, the most awarded car company, so says their ads. Not that I would recommend first year cars but most car today are relianle.

It's the quality of these cars which makes the difference and lack of engineering that leads to most recalls that b other Toyota and Honda lead in today. You just went through 15 years of recalls on your Honda, did you want to continue that as Honda has no signs of giving up the recall crown. The RAV4 has a very tinny sound to the chassis overall with the rear doors that echo the sound of uninsulated doors after closing. They were t I nny sounding at I his year's auto show and the very first autoshow debut many years ago. The Nissan Rogue is very similar with very tinny sounding doors had to rent and I his hat was the first thing he mentioned after I asked him what he thought of it

So as LetroFuel mentioned there are plethora of new cuv's to try out today and some much needed tire kicking before making your choice.


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Response from LectroFuel

2:02 pm July 18, 2017


GM did not recall their cars on time for the ignition recall, which resulted in 124 deaths and, as CNN stated, "18 people suffered serious injuries such as paralysis, amputation, brain injury or significant burns due to the ignition switch problems."

Top 10 recalled car companies:https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/10-most-recalled-car-brands-by-jason-unrau

Honda on the other hand recalled their Takata airbags on time. Even though the recall was huge, they recalled it on time and it was not Honda's fault. They only sourced their airbags from Takata. It was Takata's fault.

The Toyota acceleration recall was another big one but they were honest and recalled their cars. As this article says, the case was a hoax.



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Response from NormT

9:41 pm July 18, 2017

Toyota has not implemented fail safes that others have in their automotive software. They have experienced millions of recalls just based on software updates. As you know your Toyota's have been recalled a number of times for updates, let alone hardware updates. Owners shouldn't have to pay to be beta testers as they do with Toyota's. Toyota Unintended Acceleration and the Big Bowl of "Spaghetti" Code | Safety Research & Strategies, Inc.

Toyota Unintended Acceleration and the Big Bowl of "Spaghetti" Code | Safety Research & Strategies, Inc.

Or when your Prius goes blue screen. It's Getting Hot In Here, So Turn Off All Your Motors - And Your ABS, Too - The Truth About Cars

It's Getting Hot In Here, So Turn Off All Your Motors - And Your ABS, Too - The Truth About Cars

Toyota had an odd pair of recalls this week, highlighting both the increasing importance of software within the automobile and further reinforcing a pet theory held by your humble author. The substance of the recalls can be found on Toyota's website, Or Lexus when Consumer Reports uncovered and unsafe stabilty control system in the GX460 when it fish tailed and lost control. How do you release this to the public? Honda has own problems being part shareholder of Takata. They also knew of deaths and made changes to the airbags without telling anyone. Air Bag Flaw, Long Known to Honda and Takata, Led to Recalls

Air Bag Flaw, Long Known to Honda and Takata, Led to Recalls

I still own two cars with that old ignition. I only keep a key or two on the ring along with the remote. No extra weight and a decade of use with no pronlems. Nor do I go off roading, go unbuckled, drive under the influence, or drive at high speeds with passengers who are also unbelted. For a test I pulled downward on the then girlfriend's key chain full of keys, barcodes, and mace at a stoplight after she was saying how u n safe GM ignitions are...her 2012 Forester died at the lighr. End of story.


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