Miata. Affordable, reliable, and an absolute hoot to drive!
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Miata. Affordable, reliable, and an absolute hoot to drive!
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I haven't driven a recent SLK. The Z4 can be fun and is definitely much better for long drives than a Miata or S2000.
You might also consider the BMW 1-Series.
Going larger, perhaps an Infiniti G37.
I'd suggest a Chevrolet Corvette as an outside alternative, but road noise can be high and it probably feels too large for your taste.
Overall, it sounds like you're on the right track. I'd drive the SLK, Z4, and 1-Series, and perhaps some of the others, and see which you like best.
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Stan, you are correct about the suspension in the Z3, but the change to it in the Z4 was huge! My Z3 would change lanes if the bump in the road was big enough, and the new design smoothed it out. The SLK will provide a comfortable ride but check reliability ratings. I hear and read about a lot of small and "all the time" issues that will keep it in the shop. Drive the Miata for a good, long test drive. Yes, a lot of fun but the suspension will soon tire you out.
Here is an off the wall suggestion that you should not discount without doing some research first. I know you wanted a vehicle no older than 5 years of age, but if you will double that and start looking for a Porsche 911 Cabriolet (model year 2004-2005) you will find some in your $30k price range that have lower miles. I just saw one with 47k miles and listed for $31,000. Most 911's have been taken very good care of, have shaken the old history of drive during the week and work on 'em on the weekends. They have become extremely reliable. The Tiptronic's (automatic) will be a little less now that the PDK's are out, but running through the gears of a manual is, well, you have to experience it. Peppy when you need it, but reasonble with fuel consumption. Now - the important issue. The ride. Take a test drive in a 10 year old 911 and you will be hooked. At the end of every trip you will arrive refreshed, except for your jaws. They will ache from all the smilling you will have done. All I would ask is that you try this exercise before you rule it out.
I have had 3 - my only regret to this day is selling them.
When you drive one and the bug bites, you can reach me on this web site for the "Thank you".
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A little more touring with a bit of hustle. Audi A5/S5. Back seats, a decent trunk, even Quattro.
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One possible issue with Porsches from the early 2000s: a bearing in the engine is prone to fail, and when this happens it often takes the $20k engine with it. A number of companies run preventive fixes for this that run about $2,500. The odds of a failure, based on our survey, are about one percent per year. Fear of this issue has made these cars much more affordable than more recent Porsche sports cars.
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I am in awe of the thoughtfulness put into all the responses. WOW, real auto buddies ! Of course price is an issue but reliability even more important. I started my sporty car life with an MGB Limited Edition, rubber bumper and spent most week ends looking for parts. I literally had to rebuild the vehicle to make it roadable. No more ! I am currently running an 03 MR2 Spyder and heartily recommend it for the most driving fun, short of at risk for loosing your driving license. It is Lotus design and Toyota reliable. Unfortunately the fun factor does not mitigate physical discomfort after an hour or 2 nor the lack of storage space beyond what you're wearing. Drop top Sport Touring with a bit of luxury is where we're at now. Audi TT is one consideration but my review of reliability raises a huge question mark. The weather in the northeast is not conducive to road testing right now but will be on the agenda in a few weeks. I definitely want a vehicle I can live with for awhile and am willing to wait till the right one comes along. I will be exploring the G37, BMW 1 series, 911 and Audi A5/S5 suggestions. Again thanks and happy driving. Stan Payson
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I have been through a number of sports cars, ranging from an MGA to an Acura NSX (the first one, not the current version). I have has some nice touring sedasns as well (Infiniti Q45, Audi Quattro, Volvo Turbo) but am now retired, drive less and budget is somehwat different. I recently found a certified MINI, 2012 with 15,000 miles and since it is certified, paid maintenance through 2017, and warrantied through 100K miles. I thought it might be uncomfortable as I am 6'1" and 235, but it is as comfortable as any car I have ever had. It isn't an NSX, but it is damned near as much fun to drive, and a lot easier on the gas (and maintenance).
If you reallly want wind in your hair (if you still have hair) look for a convertible. Try it, I'm not crazy!
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Thanks. No question about the Mini fun factor but I want it all. A medium size touring roadster of good heritage is my goal. Enjoy !
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So what did you finally get or are you still "considering"?
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Thanks All. Many trials, much disappointment! Close on a 03 Z4 with all the goodies but lost trust inthe seller. Have been idle since. Availability is biggest issue. Have learned a lot during search and have become very fussy. So, am back to basics and starting over.
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I think your approach is especially correct for a car like this. With patience you'll find the right car at tha right price.
Have you driven all of the contenders, and decided that the Z4 is the one you like best?
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Thanks to all. Gave up lookng for the winter but spring will be here in 4 months and I am already itching. Unfortunately I don't know where to scratch. I'm looking for the perfect vehicle and have decided that there isn't such an animal! I love to drive a good handling vehicle but also need to haul trash to the dump. I love the wind in my face but have the realities of a New England winters. I know that I don't like big cars; the size of my 05 Passat is perfect. I'm a senior, senior and don't need or want a full blown sports car any more but do demand precise handling, reliability plus comfort and decent performance in that order. My compromise vehicle will be my daily driver, my Friday night date car and my Sunday sunny day ride. However it must be fun lto drive rain, sun or snow. Q late model Audi cabrolet quatro, BMW 2 series AWD convertible, ditto Mercedes or Nisson. Any thoughts or ideas will be appreciated. Thanks and pleasant New Year. Stan Payson
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The new GTI is a really good all-around car. It seems a strong candidate for the trash hauler. If you don't need that much power, a 2014+ Mazda3 hatchback is also fun to drive, and could be reliable for longer.
Are you looking for a manual or automatic? If the last, a 2013-2015 BMW X1 could also be a possibility. It's barely tall enough to be considered a crossover, and was essentially the last of the fairly simple BMWs.
Among four-seat convertibles, the BMW 2-Series probably handles best. The others feel larger and heavier. The Infiniti is pretty, though, would likely cost less, and could be mroe reliable (though the 2 like the X1 does better than other BMWs in our survey).
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The one advantage for waiting, is seing options change. A year later and sore knees shifts preferences toward comefort vs performance. Drivability and reliability are key but seating,visability are important too. Much as I like the control and feel of a stick shift, a good manual-matic will have to do.While safety and operational ease are important for all drivers, it is critical for older drivers who love cars. I'm working on my "tryout" list and a "do it all" rag top heads my search (BMW series 2, Audi A5 quatro, Infinity and Z4).More conservative alternatives include; Audi 5 Quatro sedan or coupe, ditto BMW 2 series and Infinity. I like sporty rides and wonder if the BMW X1 would do it for me? Of course, the GTI is always an option too. Is there a "drivers car" for seniors??? Thanks for the advice.
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I imagine seniors vary too much in their abilities and aches for one car to best suit them all.
The best approach is to have a good time with it, drive all the contenders as much as you can, and see which one suits you best. I'm very interested in reading your impressions.
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Thanks for your comment, and I fully agree that driver capability is age independent. Having said that, it is a critical factor for "mature drivers" to weigh when considering purchase of a sporty vehicle; both in terms of driver capability and vehicle characteristics. Case in point, I recently tried out a late model Porsche S and quickly determined that It was not a ride I could live with comfortably; too quick, too powerful, too loud, long clutch reach and uncomfortable seating ergonomics, for me. A back to back drive in a BMW 335 retractable HT was disappointing as well; too large presence, uncomfortable seatinging, marginal rear visability, poor sence of physical parameters and "wooshy" acceleration. My preference has changed substantially over time with the Porsche mirroring my early adult and midlife interests. Now, I'm probably looking at my last "fun" car and have to be an optimistic pragmatist.
My criteria for a "best fit" personal vehical is applical to standard cars as well, unfortunately auto marketing strategy precludes educated choice. Also, driving has become a right rather than a privilige and the pre-requisits for obtaining a drivers license are a warm body.
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