Value analysis: Scion FR-S vs. Subaru BRZ vs. Hyundai Genesis Coupe Prices

May 3rd, 2012

For performance driving, nothing beats the combination of a compact size, light weight, and rear-wheel-drive. But those seeking this combination on a budget have had only a couple of choices in recent years, both of them from Mazda. But the RX-8 is gone for 2012, and not everyone wants a convertible. To fill this hole in the market, Toyota and Subaru have jointly developed a compact sports coupe. In North America it will be offered as the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ. Both will reach dealers in May as early 2013 models.

2013 Subaru BRZThe Scion is available in a single trim level. The BRZ is available in two, with even the lower one more heavily equipped than the $24,930 Scion. So we essentially have three trim levels to choose from. The $26,265 BRZ Premium adds a navigation system and automatic xenon headlights. The $28,265 BRZ Limited further adds heated leather seats, dual zone automatic climate control, proximity key, fog lights, and a rear spoiler.

Which is the best value? TrueDelta’s car price comparison tool includes default feature values that members can modify. Using these default values, the BRZ Premium is actually around $500 less than the Scion after adjusting for feature differences. The BRZ Limited is another $200 lower. So if you want nav and/or leather, Subaru has priced both trim levels to be good values.

But there’s another variable: Scion dealers have to charge everyone the same price (usually the sticker price) while Subura dealers can adjust the price from deal to deal as they please. In the short term, with the cars in high demand, many Subaru dealers will be demanding more than MSRP. Down the road, they’ll likely be discounting the cars. So the Scion could be the better value well into 2013, after which the Suburu might become the smart way to go.

If you’re okay with (or perhaps even want) an additional 16 inches of length and an additional quarter-ton of curb weight in your sports coupe, Hyundai has revised its Genesis Coupe for 2013. The 2012 Genesis Coupe in performance “R-Spec” trim was priced about $400 higher than the FR-S, and adjusting for feature differences cut this to less than $100. But Hyundai has raised prices a substantial $2,000 for 2013. The base Genesis Coupe is now priced close to the FR-S, but without the R-Specs performance tires, sport suspension, and limited-slip differential it doesn’t handle as well.

Site improvements

April 20th, 2012

Some day we’ll remember the months around last December’s site redesign fondly. Or maybe the memories will just fade. They were tough, real tough. Entirely redesigning the site resurfaced dozens of bugs that had been fixed over the years, and created many new ones. Thanks to member feedback (and a lot of hard work by Gayla) these are now largely behind us.

So Gayla has been able to shift her focus to the fun stuff, adding new features and improving existing ones. One of her ideas: a new comment system on the reliability and repair history pages (and perhaps others as well in the future). See something interesting? You can now share your insights.

Gayla has also reworked the menus on the pricing pages, so it’s now much easier to run multiple related configurations and comparisons.

We’ve also started posting the most commonly wishlisted cars on the vehicle specifications home page. Have a car you’re interested in, and would like to easily look up information about? Add it to your wish list.

Have an improvement you’d like to see? Let us know!

Buick Verano vs. BMW 528i xDrive: which gets better gas mileage?

March 13th, 2012

2012 Buick VeranoThis week I’m driving a Buick Verano. Last week I had a BMW 528i xDrive. The first, based on the Chevrolet Cruze, is the smallest car Buick has offered since the J-Body Skyhawk was discontinued back in 1989. It weighs in at 3,300 pounds (midsize territory) and is powered by a 180-horsepower, 171 pound-feet 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. The latter, for those who don’t speak recent BMW, is the marque’s midsize sedan with a 240-horsepower, 260 pound-feet 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine (yes, a four in a $60,000 car) and all-wheel-drive. So configured, the neu 5er checks in at 4,000 pounds. Which would you expect to get better gas mileage?

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Should you avoid the Audi Q5?

March 6th, 2012

Elsewhere you’ll find the Audi Q5 with the V6 engine on a “used cars to avoid” list. In contrast, TrueDelta reports good reliability scores for the Q5. Which source is incorrect? Neither of them, really. But the other source is out of date.

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Updated Car Reliability Survey results

February 29th, 2012

We’ve updated the Car Reliability Survey stats to cover through the end of 2011, which puts them around eight months ahead of other sources of car reliability information. This time around we have full results for 603 model / model year combinations and partial results (based on small sample sizes) for another 518.

I’ll have more comments over the next week or so.

For now I’ll note that the Nissan LEAF electric car and the FIAT 500 have both been extremely reliable so far. The sample size for the latter is small, 20 cars, but only a single repair has been reported for the bunch. While that one repair did involve the engine, it was early on, nearly a year ago.

Not looking good: the new Volkswagen Passat. Our sample size is also small for this one–again 20 cars–but the stat is so high that it’ll likely remain worse than average, even much worse, in future updates with larger sample sizes.

To view the latest stats:

Car Reliability Survey results

2013 Lincoln MKZ: enough?

January 14th, 2012

With the Town Car gone and the Navigator far out of fashion, Lincoln has been struggling. If they’re to survive as a premium brand, they need a reason for people to buy their cars. At the show this year, they offered a couple.

2013 Lincoln MKZ front quarter

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Acura: signs of intelligent life!

January 9th, 2012

To some extent, Acura has never recovered from the advent of Lexus. They had a very good first few years with the Asian luxury brand space all to themselves, only to be consigned to the second tier by the larger, faster, quieter, smoother newcomer. But the real damage came later. First they dropped the popular Legend and Integra nameplates. Most recently they gifted all of their cars with an unattracive chrome bucktooth grille. I was far from alone in wondering if Acura had totally forgotten what they’re about. I went to total’s triple reveal looking for a signs of intelligent life.

2013 Acura RDX side

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Lexus: still lost

January 9th, 2012

Lexus badly wants us to think of it as a “dynamic and exciting” brand. So their top executive gave a speech declaring how dynamic and exciting they are, and (entirely without a sense of irony) how the car he was introducing had left him speechless–every word obviously read off a teleprompter. In this speech on speechlessness, Lexus’s fear of increasing irrelevance was palpable. They’re desperate to change their image lest they become known as the last car you’ll ever buy.

LF-LC concept front quarter

The speech did accompany a concept of a sports car that’s likely to see production in some form, but in the usual Toyota way it was overdone. They badly wanted to make the car look exciting, but didn’t really feel it themselves. So, well, they’re not where they know they need to be yet.

Chevrolet will understand Gen Y…

January 9th, 2012

…or die trying. Back when I was working on my Ph.D., the potential for more intensively involving consumers in the development of new products fascinated me. I saw potential to improve the lives of people on both sites of the equation, the creators of products and those who buy and use them. Perhaps they could even get to really know one another?

Since then, the Internet has come into being, and more recently all sorts of social media. The desire for community is increasingly recognized.

Well, Chevrolet claims to have more intensively studied Gen Y than anyone else. They learned that Gen Y wants a company that understands them and involves them. Chevrolet seems to be really trying to do both.

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2013 Dodge Dart in Person

January 9th, 2012

I had to skip Dodge’s presentation. But our good friend and photographer Eric Merrill made it and got some pics. I then stopped by to check out the car after Chevrolet.

2013 Dodge Dart intro, photo by Eric Merrill

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